Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/05/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi, Adam I have not printed this version yet. I currently have the Epson 3880 printer and will be keeping an eye on the Epson P800 (also a 17" width) to see if the promise of better blacks holds true. I think that is the area, maybe the last area, where improvement is needed for b&w as compared to wet prints. I have tried some of the specialty b&w inksets and continuous flow conversions but they are all in a landfill somewhere now (they are for folks who print daily as the vendor told me and I didn't listen). Yes, I did add some TriX grain to this one. I use TrueGrain (www.grubbasoftware.com). They used blank film stock in various developers and then scanned the results, for example TriX in D76 1:a at 20C. The grain added by software such as SEP is of course a digital approximation. Both of the gallery images are 1024x700. Thanks for looking and commenting! Ken On 5/7/2015 7:28 PM, Adam Bridge wrote: > I think your revision is the better choice, at least to my eye on a > monitor. For an image like this, though, the proof is in how it prints and > that would be an interesting process. > > I also think highly of using Tony Kuyper?s luminosity masks to develop > images. They offer a powerful tool to work with challenging images. I > don?t use them all the time but they?re well worth the effort when they > are needed. > > It?s funny but adding a bit of grain to an image also makes a difference > as well. I?m not sure why this is the case. I wonder if people who haven?t > seen a lot of black and white printing would experience it the same way as > those of us who have lived with it most of our lives. > > A momentary digression: > > We?ve been watching many of the ?30 for 30? documentaries on ESPN while > Jan recovers from her knee replacement. Especially in the basketball > stills from the 80s there are some killer black and white images. I admire > the photographers who made them because they weren?t shooting thousands of > images in bursts of 50. They had a few rolls of something like Tri-X and a > motor drive. And skill. And an eye. It shows. > > Now back: > > All of the images I saw had film grain. It really added to the image in my > eye. Maybe it?s what I expected. Or maybe it?s something else: like how a > bit of hiss in an audio recording makes the highs sound brighter (a > documented psycho-acoustic phenomena). > > I believe you have added grain to images, Ken, in the past, to good > effect. Maybe here? > > Also, what?s the full size of these images? I somehow think the original > is larger? > > Adam > >> On 2015 May 5, at 4:50 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: >> >> Thanks for commenting and I think you are right, that I went a little >> overboard. Here is hopefully an improvement: >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/_MG_2525BWTX2.jpg.html >> >> Ken > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information