Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/05/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]"Documentary photography and journalism is a thing which goes way back." When I got my first job taking pictures (1965), we were called "news photographers." Did not matter if we were shooting for a newspaper, wire service, or TV. Sometimes "news cameramen" (that went away when more women came into the job.) They like to call themselves "Photo-Journalist" these days. I do believe there's a fine but perceptible difference between a "Street Photographer" and a "News Photographer" It is called "paycheck." On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > Richard I started this and I'd not take it personally I'm not aware of it > having anything to do with any post you'd make > My latest thing on this is this. > Yesterday I Wiki'd HCB. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Cartier-Bresson > Look at the first sentence. > Henri Cartier-Bresson (French: [ka?tje b??s??]; August 22, 1908 ? August 3, > 2004) was a French photographer considered to be the father of > photojournalism. He was the master of candid photography and an early user > of 35 mm film. He helped develop the street photography or life reportage > style, and coined the term, The Decisive Moment, that has inspired > generations of photographers ever since. > > Click on " life reportage " its a hyperlink so it takes you to a different > page. That different page is > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_photography > There is no reportage page > On that page do a search for "reportage" > You won't get jack. > And there is no reportage page. > Reportage is a term that wedding photographers use now who want to sound > hip > and French. > > When I was in school in the early to mid 70's the head of our Media > department was a Documentary guy. He did more motion footage than stills > but > still. > We were all steeped in reportage this and reportage that. > The word "street" was really never used. I do think it took a few more > years > to catch on in the late 70's early 80's. > > I do think the word "street" is vague because its referring to photography > done of the human condition and plenty of of that happens indoors: > Not on streets. > In the forest. > In the sky. > On top of mountains. > So I for one think this abandoning of the word "reportage" or documentary > for "street" is a bit arbitrarily inane. Its part of a smug mindset of > vagueness which is going on now. To pretend to communicate when the > opposite > is really going on. > Documentary photography and journalism is a thing which goes way back. Why > forget about it and turn it into some hip buzzword? > > > > > > > On 5/5/15 10:30 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > > > The side effect of stuff like that is that some people get exposed to > learnin' > > , > > > > Sometimes, it doesn't take. > > > > from my iPad > > > > Sonny Carter > > > >> On May 5, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > wrote: > >> > >> What is with all these debates about "street photography?" I hope my > side > >> comment about David's book being one of the best "street photography" > books > >> did not contribute to yet another waste-of-electrons. > >> > >> Lets not get hung up on names etc. Just do photography :-) > >> > >>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Which refers to this article from 2001: > >>> > >>> https://luminous-landscape.com/the-photographer-at-auteur/ > >>> > >>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "Online Photographer" Mike Johnston writing about Street Photographer > >>>> Johnny Deadman back in 2005 about some work "a couple years ago" > >>>> > >>>> http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2005/11/deadman-update.html > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> That ought to give you fodder for another rant. ;-) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Sonny > >>>> http://sonc.com/look/ > >>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana > >>>> 1714 > >>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase > >>>> > >>>> USA > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Sonny > >>> http://sonc.com/look/ > >>> Natchitoches, Louisiana > >>> 1714 > >>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase > >>> > >>> USA > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > >> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > >> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Regards, Sonny http://sonc.com/look/ Natchitoches, Louisiana 1714 Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase USA