Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/05/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]My fault for finding this tragedy a bit amusing. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > They could give you the option which is common and I have with my D700 of > 12-bit vs. 14-bit so you can go for speed or quality. I always have it set > for all thing quality. > > Richard thanks on that I knew bit depth was not dependent on format it just > struck me that the medium format backs give you larger bit depth options > typically. Like 16 bits (65,536 levels per channel). I don't think there > is > 16 bits in 24x26 ff. > > > On 5/5/15 11:10 PM, "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote: > > > Wouldn't it also affect write speeds? What if Leica puts more value on > > speed than on bit depths? > > > > Jim Nichols > > Tullahoma, TN USA > > > > On 5/5/2015 10:04 PM, Doug Herr wrote: > >> Sometimes the published bit depth has more to do with marketing than > anything > >> else. > >> > >> Doug Herr > >> Birdman of Sacramento > >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com > >> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > >>> Sent: May 5, 2015 6:01 PM > >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New M(246) Outputs 12 bit Files > >>> > >>> The "bit-depth" is not dependent on the format. If 12 bits is good > enough > >>> for 35mm sensor, then it would be good enough for medium format > sensor, and > >>> vice versa. > >>> > >>> Note that I have not said what I think personally on the technical > merits. > >>> I am just giving out the perspective that the decision is almost > certainly > >>> financial related rather than based on technical analysis. > >>> > >>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> 16 bit it says on this phase one achromatic plus monochrome but medium > >>>> format seems to have more bits involved or am I wrong? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 5/5/15 8:01 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> No doubt PhaseOne came to the same conclusion... > >>>>> http://www.achromaticplus.com/Achromatic_Plus/The_Back.html > >>>>> > >>>>> not... > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at > >>>>> rabinergroup.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> I think what will happen is they will put two large prints up side > by > >>>> side > >>>>>> one with the old 14 bit camera and the other with the new 12 bit > and the > >>>>>> new > >>>>>> camera will of course blow the old one right out of the water these > >>>> people > >>>>>> did not wake up one morning all of a sudden stupid. > >>>>>> The interesting thing will be what the mitigating factors might be > and > >>>> how > >>>>>> they are put in place. > >>>>>> Is bit depth less of an issue with only one channel than three? > (RGB) > >>>>>> Whatever it is the proof will be in the pudding and they've > already see > >>>>>> and > >>>>>> tasted the pudding. They'll give us a taste when they get around > to it. > >>>>>> But > >>>>>> I do think plenty of people will be blown over by rather large > glowing > >>>>>> monochrome prints from this camera which will be a life changing > >>>>>> experience. > >>>>>> A new paradigm creating kind of thing. And we'll see those soon. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 5/5/15 12:12 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don't think you need to sign it. It's open for all to view. A > longer > >>>>>> way > >>>>>>> to get there is: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Go to www.getdpi.com you will see Jono Slacks article about the > new > >>>>>>> Monochrom. Then click on the getDPI Forums. > >>>>>>> Then scroll down to the Leica link > >>>>>>> Post #47 under The New Monochrom - a fine report > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hope this helps... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Steve Barbour < > steve.barbour at gmail.com > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On May 5, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> This webpage is not available > >>>>>>>> it is available, perhaps you have to sign in some-how..... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Tina > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at > >>>>>>>>> gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> See post #46 by Jono Slack: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> > http://www.getdpi.com/forum/leica/54592-new-monochrom-fine-report.html#post > >>>> 63 > >>>>>>>> 9690 > >>>>>>>>>> Curiouser and curiouser... > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> Bob Adler > >>>>>>>>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >>>> information > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Mark William Rabiner > >>>>>> Photographer > >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Mark William Rabiner > >>>> Photographer > >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > >>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > >>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Chris Saganich www.imagebrooklyn.com