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Subject: [Leica] Critiques
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 16:11:22 -0500
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Thanks, Tina.  That is very enlightening, though I never expect to sell 
anything.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 5/4/2015 4:07 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> Here is a sample sale from last week:
>
> Country: Worldwide
> Usage: Editorial
> Media: Book, print and/or e-book
> Print run: Unlimited
> Placement: Inside
> Image Size: 2 page spread
> Start: 01 January 2016
> End: 01 January 2041
> All terms and rights granted as per the Alamy Preferred Vendor Agreement
> dated 26th January 2010 prevail. Flat rate per image, license period 20
> years.
>
> Unlimited print run, 2 page spread, worldwide, print and e-book, for 25
> years and I get 50% of $180.  When I started in stock, the lease would have
> been for one year at the most and renewed every year they used it.  The
> price for one use would have been closer to $1000.
>
> It's a tough market for photographers these days!
>
> TIna
>
> $ 180.00
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> Tina,
>>
>> I thought textbooks were a disappearing commodity.  Are you selling images
>> for digital textbooks?
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>
>> On 5/4/2015 3:25 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>
>>> I'm taking photographs to sell to textbooks.
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:32 PM, George Lottermoser <
>>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   On May 3, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>>   So what is the answer to getting no response at all from the e-mail
>>>> lists?
>>>>
>>>>> The reason I post is to get feedback.  If I don't get it, there is no
>>>>> reason to post.  When I post on various Facebook pages, Leica ones
>>>>> especially, I get lots of hits and responses.  Why not here?
>>>>>
>>>> I always use IMG (as single image) or IMGs (multiple images) when I post
>>>> an image link.
>>>> Not to indicate that I WANT or NEED a "CRITIQUE" but simply to say, "a
>>>> picture link if you want to look."
>>>>
>>>> If we want or need a Serious Critique then ask for it.
>>>> I feel like we talked about this a week or two back.
>>>>
>>>> I taught graphic design for dozen semesters at Columbia College Chicago.
>>>> I consider Serious Critiques of Art Work (of whatever sort) a fairly 
>>>> time
>>>> consuming task.
>>>>
>>>> The last time this came up I put a list out to you; as in Critique to
>>>> accomplish what sort of edit.
>>>> You responded, "all of the above."
>>>>
>>>> IMO that neutralizes any potential usefulness or any Serious Critique.
>>>>
>>>> Every photograph you take while traveling in "foreign" countries, or 
>>>> even
>>>> around the farm, will have some potential value to someone somewhere.
>>>> Almost all of us are producing photograph that may serve some useful
>>>> purpose to someone somewhere. Though we are not all producing a body of
>>>> work which may have any significant effect on the "History of
>>>> Photography;"
>>>> or the "History of Photo Journalism;" or the "Whatever."
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion Doug Herr is producing a quality of work, with an educated
>>>> and enlightened vision, which is actually adding to the "History of
>>>> Photography in the Field of Ornithology." I believe (though I don't 
>>>> know)
>>>> he may have created some of the best photographs of certain specimens in
>>>> existence; as in "the one to beat."
>>>>
>>>> Chris Crawford documents deeply and widely in geographic areas and forms
>>>> a
>>>> body of work with a powerfully strong personal vision which is almost
>>>> unmistakable.
>>>>
>>>> Steve has done medical work which stands alone in empathy and
>>>> intelligence.
>>>>
>>>> At one time, Tina, I thought I knew what you were doing. And I believe
>>>> that you did create a strong coherent body of work from some specific
>>>> locations. You were photographing to a specific purpose; and meeting the
>>>> goals of the client who commissioned the work.
>>>>
>>>> At this point, when you say that you're shooting for stock to appeal to
>>>> any all potential markets world wide; without focusing on any particular
>>>> unique styling or with anything in particular to say about any unique
>>>> area;
>>>> I can't imagine how to "Critique the Photography."
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>>
>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>
>>>>
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