Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/04/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> On Apr 3, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > My Nocti f1 focused perfectly on two M6's. One much older than the other. > So I'm not ok with the idea that its a thing you have to have specially > calibrated for a certain body and so on. I think the thing just works. luckily some of the time, most of the time, not always?. You are not seeing what you are shooting, you are depending on a purely mechanical linkage that can (and does) get out of whack (to use an optical term. Then it must be re calibrated. This happened to me. s > > > On 4/3/15 5:04 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: > >> I don't tend to use my Noctilii at f5.6, nothing wrong with it just I >> would >> use a different 50mm if I was expecting that. It can be difficult to get >> the >> f1 focussing calibrated accurately but it can be done. The 90AA is not at >> its >> best at closer focussing distances, should be updated with FLE like the >> 75AA.... >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Rabiner >> >> I'm glad to know that John that the f1 has no problems with digital as I >> thought there were a few threads to the effect on this list a long while >> back. And that this had been corroborated in the real world. Having >> spent all >> that money on a lens I'm glad and gotten great results with it with film >> its >> nice to know if I ever lay my hands on a Monochrom or M240 I'd be able to >> shoot f1 with it and be there and get that look. Didn't they say it >> messed up >> at f5.6? Focus shift? >> If I ever got a digital M I'd certainly give it a shot. >> Aspherically I have the 21 and 24 Elmarit's, the 35 Summicron and the 90 >> Apo >> asph Summicron another lens which in my dreams I heard people saying was a >> problem with digital. >> >> On 4/3/15 4:27 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: >> >>> I own both Mark, not sure what issues the f1 has with digital? My f1 >>> focusses fine on all my Ms but the F0.95 front focusses slightly on >>> the Monochrom :-( I enjoy my Leica lenses where I can get a very >>> different, but equally good quality, images with a 75mm Summilux or >>> the 75mm APO Summicron. I am not aware of any other system like this, >>> with Hasselblad and Canikon etc you tend to need the latest lenses as >>> they catch up ;-) >>> >>> john >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mark Rabiner >>> >>> I would also like to see side by side comparisons but the meantime I'd >>> think the new lens is better than the old one (which I have) on all >>> accounts. This is a key lens in the Leica lineup with high visibility >>> promo value and the last lens Dr. Andreas Kaufmann is going to mess up >>> in any >>> respect. >>> The f1 has trouble with digital. A huge embarrassment for the Leica >>> company. >>> This one costing three times more money and having the fastest design >>> available is not going to have any glitches in it. Its going to be worth >>> it. >>> Leica has the resources to make sure this is the case. >>> >>> Its common on at least this the list to assume that a lens with an >>> aspheric element in it has a harsh look with ruined bokeh. Leica went >>> to bed and woke up stupid. >>> Its as if it goes without saying so that people will make solid >>> statements to this effect without even seeing this first hand on a new >>> lens it not questioned by anybody. >>> I've have four M lenes with aspherics in them and have found that >>> first hand to not be true. Each generation of Leica glass, Nikon too >>> and I'd think Canon gets sharper with better contrast and god forbid >>> they'd forget much better bokeh. As this aspect of a lens is all anyone >>> cares >>> or knows about any more. >>> I find this worship of old glass to be puerile. Even multi coating is >>> looked upon with a negative slant and older simpler coatings revered. >>> They even say this improves film speed. Pay extra for a single coated >>> lens. Less contrast means better shadow detail. Like never. >>> The lens or camera companies are highly competitive and none of them >>> are stupid. The general level of optical engineering improves every >>> minute. >>> I always with few exceptions get the latest a camera company has to >>> offer unless I cant afford it or its no longer made or its more >>> compact or something. If I get old glass I don't claim they make >>> better images. They make cheaper images. >>> >>> >>> On 4/3/15 3:18 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: >>> >>>> The f1 can create 'dreamier' images, the f0.95 is a bit harsher. I >>>> read a few years back about someone who had both; he used the f0.95 >>>> if he was going somewhere and had to get a photo (stopped down it is >>>> almost as good as any Leica 50mm) but used the f1 in his own time for >>>> personal images. The colours from the f0.95 and gorgeous but the f1 >>>> is also significantly smaller and lighter! >>>> >>>> john >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> >>>> Or maybe it's just nostalgia... >>>> >>>> Even if it's purely emotional, I just can't justify having something >>>> this expensive that makes me feel guilty not loving it. >>>> >>>> Sue >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There is something lovely and unique about the "older" Notcti's >>>>> indeed! I agree that there is some secret ingredient missing in the >>>>> new 0.95's. I think if I were to see some side-by-side shots I might >>>>> be able to better see a difference. >>>>> Good luck with the sale: many love and produce beautiful images with >>>>> it. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Susan Ryan <skalte at icloud.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I shot maybe 100 images with it. Just don't love it the way I did my >>>>>> 1.0. >>>>>> $9000. Photos available. Paypal preferred but we can discuss >>>>>> alternatives if necessary. Contact me offlist. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sue Ryan >>>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information