Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/04/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I'm with you I believe in zero tolerance. A lens should work on all cameras. Or something's rotten in the State of Wetzlar. On 4/3/15 6:56 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: > You shouldn't get it calibrated to a particular body, all lenses and bodies > should be set to zero tolerance of what they should be. Solms had my M9 > and f1 > but did not make them work well together, a lens specialist in NZ did the > calibration after I got it back. My 75mm Summilux went to Solms three times > before it focussed accurately. As others have said, try your lens on a > digital > body before you say it focusses perfectly.... > > john > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Rabiner > > My Nocti f1 focused perfectly on two M6's. One much older than the other. > So I'm not ok with the idea that its a thing you have to have specially > calibrated for a certain body and so on. I think the thing just works. > > > On 4/3/15 5:04 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: > >> I don't tend to use my Noctilii at f5.6, nothing wrong with it just I >> would use a different 50mm if I was expecting that. It can be >> difficult to get the >> f1 focussing calibrated accurately but it can be done. The 90AA is not >> at its best at closer focussing distances, should be updated with FLE >> like the 75AA.... >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Rabiner >> >> I'm glad to know that John that the f1 has no problems with digital as >> I thought there were a few threads to the effect on this list a long >> while back. And that this had been corroborated in the real world. >> Having spent all that money on a lens I'm glad and gotten great >> results with it with film its nice to know if I ever lay my hands on a >> Monochrom or M240 I'd be able to shoot f1 with it and be there and get >> that look. Didn't they say it messed up at f5.6? Focus shift? >> If I ever got a digital M I'd certainly give it a shot. >> Aspherically I have the 21 and 24 Elmarit's, the 35 Summicron and the >> 90 Apo asph Summicron another lens which in my dreams I heard people >> saying was a problem with digital. >> >> On 4/3/15 4:27 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: >> >>> I own both Mark, not sure what issues the f1 has with digital? My f1 >>> focusses fine on all my Ms but the F0.95 front focusses slightly on >>> the Monochrom :-( I enjoy my Leica lenses where I can get a very >>> different, but equally good quality, images with a 75mm Summilux or >>> the 75mm APO Summicron. I am not aware of any other system like this, >>> with Hasselblad and Canikon etc you tend to need the latest lenses as >>> they catch up ;-) >>> >>> john >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mark Rabiner >>> >>> I would also like to see side by side comparisons but the meantime >>> I'd think the new lens is better than the old one (which I have) on >>> all accounts. This is a key lens in the Leica lineup with high >>> visibility promo value and the last lens Dr. Andreas Kaufmann is >>> going to mess up in any respect. >>> The f1 has trouble with digital. A huge embarrassment for the Leica >>> company. >>> This one costing three times more money and having the fastest design >>> available is not going to have any glitches in it. Its going to be worth >>> it. >>> Leica has the resources to make sure this is the case. >>> >>> Its common on at least this the list to assume that a lens with an >>> aspheric element in it has a harsh look with ruined bokeh. Leica went >>> to bed and woke up stupid. >>> Its as if it goes without saying so that people will make solid >>> statements to this effect without even seeing this first hand on a >>> new lens it not questioned by anybody. >>> I've have four M lenes with aspherics in them and have found that >>> first hand to not be true. Each generation of Leica glass, Nikon too >>> and I'd think Canon gets sharper with better contrast and god forbid >>> they'd forget much better bokeh. As this aspect of a lens is all >>> anyone cares or knows about any more. >>> I find this worship of old glass to be puerile. Even multi coating is >>> looked upon with a negative slant and older simpler coatings revered. >>> They even say this improves film speed. Pay extra for a single coated >>> lens. Less contrast means better shadow detail. Like never. >>> The lens or camera companies are highly competitive and none of them >>> are stupid. The general level of optical engineering improves every >>> minute. >>> I always with few exceptions get the latest a camera company has to >>> offer unless I cant afford it or its no longer made or its more >>> compact or something. If I get old glass I don't claim they make >>> better images. They make cheaper images. >>> >>> >>> On 4/3/15 3:18 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: >>> >>>> The f1 can create 'dreamier' images, the f0.95 is a bit harsher. I >>>> read a few years back about someone who had both; he used the f0.95 >>>> if he was going somewhere and had to get a photo (stopped down it is >>>> almost as good as any Leica 50mm) but used the f1 in his own time >>>> for personal images. The colours from the f0.95 and gorgeous but the >>>> f1 is also significantly smaller and lighter! >>>> >>>> john >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> >>>> Or maybe it's just nostalgia... >>>> >>>> Even if it's purely emotional, I just can't justify having something >>>> this expensive that makes me feel guilty not loving it. >>>> >>>> Sue >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There is something lovely and unique about the "older" Notcti's >>>>> indeed! I agree that there is some secret ingredient missing in the >>>>> new 0.95's. I think if I were to see some side-by-side shots I >>>>> might be able to better see a difference. >>>>> Good luck with the sale: many love and produce beautiful images with >>>>> it. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Susan Ryan <skalte at icloud.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I shot maybe 100 images with it. Just don't love it the way I did my >>>>>> 1.0. >>>>>> $9000. Photos available. Paypal preferred but we can discuss >>>>>> alternatives if necessary. Contact me offlist. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sue Ryan >>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/