Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/03/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote: > > I hate like hell to argue with the great Dr. Ted, but I must. I > contributed to this thread of what is admittedly mental masturbation to > point out something that I could have explained better, how the way I shot > film made my digital photography ( I would say my photography in general) > better. It's a discipline that may not work for everyone, but I can't see > the advantage of spray and pray. If being more "economical" makes me > consider what I'm shooting, rather than just holding the button and hoping > for the best, then I'm the winner. > > But in retrospect, what I have said may be strongly similar to what was > written by Dr. Ted. god, I agree with Ted (no surprise) and Bill? seems that the conclusion is that when it?s worth shooting, ie momentous, you rarely get more than one, or a very, very few shots? over and out! Steve > > -----Original Message----- From: Ted Grant > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:38 AM > To: 'Leica Users Group' > Subject: Re: [Leica] Shoot less... ? IT'S ALL DUMB ASS CRAP! > > I can't believe I'm reading such a pile of inane garbage tripe about > using film more or less? Bigger size? WHATEVER? LESS IS BETTER OR WHATEVER > STUPID TOPIC TWIST YOU WISH TO PUT ON IT! > > Sounds and reads like a bunch of little un-skilled morons in some of the > posts! > > Let me offer you a "ONE FRAME ONLY "CLICK!" > That's it! it's Canadian runner Ben Johnson just as he crossed the finish > line in the "Men's 100 meter Olympic Championship race! SEOUL. KOREA 1988' > > One frame, one click, one human being re-action with an R8! "NO NOT ONE > FRAME USING A MOTOR DRIVE. JUST ME, MY GUT AND SHUTTER TRIPPING FINGER! > Webpage TEDGRANTPHOTO.COM And there's a few other "one frame photographs > in > the same portfolio you might like to see pictures without numbers even > considered... before? during? Or after! All "see! Click!" > > WE'VE HAD SOME THE GREATEST DUMB-ASS SO CALLED CONVERSATIONS ON THE lug in > my years? > > HOWEVER? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THIS ONE MUST BE LEADING THE PACK IN DUMB ASS > TOPIC! > > It's Monday! Let's all "stop this crap right now!" And begin a new week > with > common sense! THANK YOU. > > CHEERS, > Dr. Ted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > -----Original Message----- > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On > Behalf Of > FRANK DERNIE > Sent: March-23-15 3:48 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] Shoot less... ? > > Yes Richard that is surely the point? > If one needs to take gazillions of frames to get the few pictures you want > that is one thing, and fair enough. > To have the perverse (to me) idea that this is equivalent to shooting > massively fewer shots in 120, but the same area of film, or even more > barmy, > a handful of shots of 10x8 is equivalent, lacks even a microgram of logic. > Surely, if you only need a dozen shots, you only need a dozen shots? > Shooting 432 because that is the same area of film is bizarre. > Now I do see that few photographers use medium or large format for sport, > and taking gazillions of sport pictures gives a higher chance of getting a > good one. But still, if you only need a dozen shots there is no need to > take > another 420 just to expose the same area of film. > I am being a touch tongue in cheek here but really, Henning seems to be the > only one to have been logical on this subject. > > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Sent: Monday, 23 March 2015, 10:17 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Shoot less... ? >> >> >> You are missing the point: shooting more / working the scene --> gives a >> better chance of getting the worthwhile results. >> >> Why is there even an argument? Sure, no one should try to take >> meaningless, >> loser shots, but even with the best techniques, best eyes, etc., shooting >> more frames, especially under most circumstances, would mean potentially a >> higher hit rate. >> >> I am beginning to think that LUGGERS love to argue - for argument sake. >> No, >> we do not. Yes, you do, no, do not, do. DO NOT. Certainly do. >> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:03 AM, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at >> btinternet.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I have never heard of photographers considering their work by the acreage >>> of film they use rather than the number of worthwhile results they get. > Is >>> this common? >>> >>> > On 21 Mar, 2015, at 20:14, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > A dozen sheets of 8x10 equal 144 shots with a Rolleiflex or Hasselblad. >>> > 432 shots with in 35mm. Also par for the course. A very common >>> occurrence. >>> > >>> > I shot 10 rolls a pro pack of Delta 100 of one model once in a few > hours. >>> > So I had 360 chances to get it right. >>> > That was the most concentrated I ever got. >>> > My Balcars afterwards were quite warm. But they cooled down in time. >>> > I needed a cold shower for sure. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto >> // https://www.facebook.com/Transformations.CosplayPortraits >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information