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Subject: [Leica] LUG Family
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 15:20:32 -0400

I think if we climb on a ladder to get a shot we always think its terrific.
But years later we see its boring.
We confuse climbing ladders with good images.
Climbing ladders do not always a  great image make.
Sometimes it better to just stay on the ground and do what you always do!



On 3/22/15 2:12 PM, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> On behalf of "look again later," unfortunately had slipped through the few
> brain  cells I still retain..
> 
> In my case I still have  a great......... read huge numbers of
> negatives/slides from assignments beginnig 50 years ago and in particular
> "special assignments that haven't been looked at in 40 years or more?
> 
> HOWEVER!! It is most essential we go back into those "special keeper files"
> because we will inevitably find some amazing images we passed by because at
> the time, "yes we kind of saw something there but didn't recognize until
> later years with 30 more years of "photographic picture SEEING EXPERINCE!"
> And a sense of better editing
> 
> I have often said to myself . 'HOW THE HELL DID I MISS THAT?"  And it is a
> photo  from a previous shoot only 40 years ago. "LENGTH OF TIME WHEN
> RE-LOOKING AGAIN?" Can be the most revealing of some of the best photos you
> have ever exposed.
> 
> So on behalf of all and our somewhat barking bit of editing diatribe please
> accept my possible "bite yer bottoms comments!"
> 
> cheers,
> Dr. ted 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> Mark Rabiner
> Sent: March-21-15 10:24 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Family
> 
> I agree with this completely.
> I think getting space away from your pictures is invaluable. Giving them
> some time off away from you.
> To be able to see them later. And make it so you're almost seeing them for
> the first time. I call it regaining my perspective.
> Its always what I'm striving for with my work so I can better determine its
> true value.
> Shots I'd done the day before all look the same. Pretty Good.
> 
> I think some of this also applies to printing.  You have to see them later
> to know which ones are the ones you want to show people.
> 
> I just finished pissing off a client because I couldn't make editing
> decisions until a few days later. And I told him I'd have them for him in a
> couple of days. A couple as in two.
> 
> 
> On 3/22/15 12:22 AM, "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Tina,
>> For What It Is Worth. I am not a professional, but I enjoy taking good
>> photographs as well.
>> 
>> I, too, end up with 10-15k photographs after every safari. On the road, I
>> just store them in three different places (External Hard Drive + two
>> Hyperdrives). After I return, I do not look at them for 2-3 weeks, a tip
>> from John Shaw, because it makes editing them easier as you are more
>> divorced from the emotions that you had when taking the shots. After that
> I
>> sit down and very quickly and ruthlessly prune it down to 1000 shots or so
>> - and I mean ruthless - any flaw and I junk it, and I completely trust my
>> first impressions - this just takes me 2-3 days. Then I again leave the
>> pruned list for a week or so, then carefully go through it and whittle it
>> down to a manageable 500 or so. If I miss a few potentially good ones by
>> this method, it does not bother me too much.
>> 
>> However, as one of my permanent backups, I keep the entire set of RAW
> files
>> on one of the drives inside the hyperdrive intact - storage is cheap, and
>> who knows? :-)
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, I have learned over the past few days that the LUG family is just
> as
>>> dysfunctional as any real family.
>>> 
>>> I really appreciate the off-list, on-list and phone messages of support.
> I
>>> would not still be a participant here without them.
>>> 
>>> I will not be posting daily photos for review.  I will be posting them on
>>> pBase with an update to the LUG whenever I fill a page of photos.  You
> can
>>> look or not.  You can comment or not.  I will edit by myself or hire
>>> somebody eventually.
>>> 
>>> More than one of you commented that my style of photography has changed
>>> since the days of B&W and Noctilux and families in Honduras.  I can no
>>> longer travel to Honduras and stay with families for a week at a time.  I
>>> can no longer focus the Noctilux.  I am old.  I am still in business as a
>>> professional photographer because it's too expensive to be a hobby for
> me.
>>> Color sells.  B&W doesn't.  If I could make a living with B&W, that is
> what
>>> I would shoot.
>>> 
>>> Thank you to those who understand.
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Tina Manley
>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>> 
>>> 
> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/
> T
>>> ina+Manley.html
>>> 
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> 
> 




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Mark William Rabiner
Photographer
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