Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/03/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Photography has become very much all about what did you shoot today? What did you shot in the last five minutes? Upload and show to all friends. Get likes. Have people text you back with what they just shot. I knew people in the old days who first made an 8x10 rc resin coated print which they'd keep in the back of their portfolio of best prints. They called these "work prints". It may have come out of Evergreen College. They'd show these to some friends for a few weeks or months and if the image is wearing well and feeling right over time they'd go back into the darkroom and print it this time on fiber paper and this time 11x14". With the idea that if it was really good it would make it into your portfolio the chances being really small. So the odds were very few people would ever see it. Because it wasn't your very best work. And what's the point of showing people not your very best work? You show people your portfolio. A word almost unspoken here on the LUG. Here on the LUG I have embraced the LUG gallery and put on it images I didn't have time to live with and get more secure with before I foisted it on whoever might see it. Many are still up though some I made disappear and tried to pretend it never happened. My luck they will bounce back at me. Its a mixed bag. Its good to get your work out in a body of work in progress mode but there is somthign to be said for the way things were done in the darkroom days. On 3/21/15 3:23 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you, Aram. I am enjoying reliving the trip - most of the time ;-) I > appreciate your comments and your help. Tina On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:08 > PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote: > I for one am really shocked > at the hard time that Tina, one of the > absolutely best photographers here, > is getting from the LUG. I get her > point. I try to be helpful, mostly off > list. It is nice to have extra > eyes to tell you which photos are worth > putting the extra effort in to make > them marketable, which is her > profession. > > As far as Richard's comments, to always show your best, that > does have > some truth to it, but then again, I guess it depends on what the > LUG is all > about. Is it a showcase, or is it a learning tool? I guess it is > a bit of > both. I do both, I guess. Friday flowers, Saturday Signs, Weird > Wednesday > are showcase events, even though many ask for comments. But I > also show > shots that I am expecting to get some feedback on, and they are > maybe not > my best, but are an experiment that I want a different set of eyes > on to > get a less biased opinion. Is it strong in composition? Is there a > > deficiency in technique? B&W or color, which I do think is a very valid > > question for some who work mainly in one medium. If everybody liked the > > same thing, it would be a very boring world, though there would be less > > arguments taking place. > > So, I comment on her photos when I have something > constructive to say > about things that are not monitor dependent, but most of > all I just enjoy > traveling with her, and others, to far away places that I > will never see, > except through the eyes of VERY talented photographers like > Tina. > > Keep them coming, Tina. I am enjoying the trip. > > Aram > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Tina Manley" > <tmanley at gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:16 PM > To: "Leica Users > Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] ***SPAM*** Re: Tina's > softness/sharpness/focus issue > - might be solved, in part > > If I knew my > best, I would not need comments and suggestions. >> >> Tina >> >> On Fri, Mar > 20, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Richard Man < >> richard at richardmanphoto.com> >> > wrote: >> >> If there is one thing I learn over the years. ALWAYS only show > your best, >>> if for comments and suggestions. >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 > at 7:02 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > I don't > even know if I like a pic unless I fine tune it first. I'm not >>> shy >>> > > about cropping and very few pix don't need some real contrast and >>> > exposure >>> > tweaking. And color tweaking. And there will be dark areas > which need >>> > to >>> be >>> > brought up and overly light areas which will > need to be brought down. >>> > Just like darkroom work. Only with a lot more > precision. >>> > Speaking for myself again I'm not comfortable for people to > be seeing >>> > non >>> > edited and non tweaked work. Because its not my work > yet till its >>> finished. >>> > >>> > >>> > On 3/20/15 9:52 AM, "Tina Manley" > <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > > But I explained when I started > posting these Cuba photos that they >>> would >>> > not >>> > > be finished > products. The careful crafting will come after the >>> > editing, I >>> > > > hope. The editing is what I need help with. These unfinished >>> > photos > are >>> > > posted on pBase which is more like a sketchpad to me. Many > will >>> > be deleted. >>> > > The good ones that are eventually finished will > be posted on >>> > my website, if I >>> > > live that long. If I had posted > carefully crafted >>> > finished photos, I would >>> > > not need help. And I > would never get through the >>> > editing. >>> > >>> > Tina >>> > >>> > On > Fri, Mar >>> > > 20, 2015 at 9:44 AM, philippe.amard > <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>> > > Le 20 >>> > > mars > 15 ? 14:09, Tina Manley a ?crit : >>> > > >>> > > maybe I should just not > post them >>> > > at all. >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Probably! > It would show more consideration for some of us >>> > > who tried in >>> > > > earnest to help you. >>> > > >>> > > Jay posts a picture a day after his >>> > > > trips, each of them has been carefully >>> > > crafted before sending. >>> > > > Many others >>> > > here do that too, Lluis, Geoff, Richard, or George to > name but >>> > > a few. >>> > > >>> > > I >>> > > won't fall in that trap > again either. >>> > > >>> > > case closed >>> > > >>> > > Philippe >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Leica > Users Group. >>> > > See >>> > > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug > for more information >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Tina >>> > > > Manley >>> > www.tinamanley.com >>> > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >>> > > http://www.alamy.com/ >>> > > > stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/ >>> > Tina+Manley.html >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > > > __________________________________________ >>> > Leica Users Group. >>> > > See >>> > > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Mark William Rabiner >>> > > Photographer >>> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Leica Users > Group. >>> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> // richard > <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>> // > http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto >>> // > https://www.facebook.com/Transformations.CosplayPortraits >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Tina Manley >> www.tinamanley.com >> > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >> > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0- >> > 4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Tina > Manley www.tinamanley.com tina-manley.artistwebsites.com http://www.alamy.com/ > stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html _____ > __________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/