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Subject: [Leica] Shoot less... ?
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 12:33:45 -0700
References: <CA+yJO1DA_brMXdie_ST3N8rxOn3=Aw=sTe4FGiivQFqZGXwqXA@mail.gmail.com> <D1333D45.35929%mark@rabinergroup.com>

There are a few books of "Contact Sheets," including one from Magnum
photos. It's very inspiring to see even the Greats "work the scene."
Eisenstadt shot 4 frames of the V Day "Kissing" because that's all it
lasted and other photographers captured the same scene but at a different
angles, only the Eisenstadt one is the Great one.

There is also a Contact Sheet book about Hollywood photos, and even there,
when most people are shooting Hasselblad, they still worked the scenes and
shot a whole roll or two.

I have not seen the evidence, but I have heard that a session with Hurrell
and other older Hollywood photographers who used 8x10 also involved a dozen
sheets or so.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
wrote:

> More people should see the video  I saw in San Francisco of HCB shooting in
> a crowd with a screw mount.  I cant find it on Utube. He was shooting a
> picture every two seconds and winding to the next from with a quick flip of
> his thumb on the wheel. I tell the rapid advance lever first on the M3
> which
> at first a double stroke would have done nothing but slow him down.
> I'm saying this because of the  supposed "decisive moment" thing that you
> wait for.
> HCB was not waiting for nothing. He was shooting everything that moved and
> a
> few that were not. He was working it and covering it.
> Some people on this list call this a mindless shotgun approach.
> And it belies how photographers have always worked. Especially since roll
> film. And perhaps even more especially since digital.
>
> People think that film makes us better more contemplative people. And the
> decisive moment thing especially.
> Well it didn't. Its double speak and weasel words.
>
> But If there's anything dumber than shooting one picture  and walking away
> with a digital camera with 600 pix in the memory card I cant think of what
> it is.
> That's not capturing an image its making it go away.
> Been there done that.
>
>
> On 3/21/15 1:31 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank God there are professional photographers on the list who know what
> it
> > means to have to come up with photos to pay the bills.
> >
> > Thanks, Ted, for understanding.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> John McMaster OFFERED:
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Shoot less... ?
> >>
> >>>>> I have wondered that, I cannot imagine taking 16K shots in a few
> weeks
> >> without binning the vast majority (no good or repeats). I am a sparse
> >> shooter (not sure if I have taken more than 200 shots in a day) but with
> >> what I regard as a high success rate.....<<<<<<<<<<<
> >>
> >> JOHN MON AMI,
> >> Don't become a documentary photographer and have a "WHEAT HARVESTING
> >> ASSIGNMENT!" That's everything LIFE to DEATH" OF A MONTH OR TWO on the
> >> ground, in the air shooting aerials! The day is usually pre-sunrise
> until
> >> moon is up.............EVERYDAY! Ok so maybe a couple, you sleep in
> until
> >> 5.30 a.m.! :-)
> >>
> >> One never ever thinks about how many frames simply because you are
> >> recording
> >> a "PHOTO ESSAY" covering everything that occurs lives/dies during the
> month
> >> or two!
> >>
> >> That includes the "field mice or gophers to filling the tractor fuel
> tanks
> >> to the farmer's wife making/baking the meals.............. To tell and
> show
> >> "THE HARVESTING FARMERS LIFE CORRECTLY IS TO SHOOT EVERYTHING FROM
> BIRTH TO
> >> DEATH!" Every single moment while you are on the assignment. And the
> LIFE
> >> of
> >> the DAY IS IN MOTION!
> >>
> >> The number of frames doesn't matter as long as you completely have your
> >> "ASS
> >> COVERED" in showing the complete story.  Oh sure once in awhile you may
> not
> >> shoot a frame........... PROVIDING YOU ALREADY HAVE A SMASHING GREAT
> >> SIMILAR
> >> BEAUTY TAKEN AND BACKED-UP ON ANOTHER DRIVE, WHATEVER? Even then? If you
> >> are
> >> motivated to "jeeeeesssshhh look at that?" FOR HEAVAN SAKE "SHOOT IT!" A
> >> "maybe similar looking image? But what the heck "SO WHAT?" Better to
> have
> >> it
> >> in the can than find out later the back-up drive failed! :-(
> >>
> >> If one is on holiday or work there's no such thing as......... "DON'T
> TAKE
> >> TOO MANY!" If you have camera in hand and you are scene motivated?
> "SHOOT
> >> IT!"
> >> Don't shoot too many? jeeeeeesh!
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Dr. ted :-)
> >>
> >> john
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Steve Barbour
> >> Sent: Saturday, 21 March 2015 4:20 p.m.
> >> To: Leica LUG
> >> Subject: [Leica] Shoot less... ?
> >>
> >> Tina, a number of Luggers have suggested somehow showing less, ie being
> >> selective....
> >>
> >> Is it not true that this suggestion applies to shooting ?
> >>
> >>
> >> steve
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> Steve Barbour
> >>
> >>
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