Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/03/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks, Bernard. I do need all the help I can get. I would love to get comments like: I prefer the first one, I like this one because I can see the people, the tree gets in the way of the people in that one, I don't care for this one at all, the composition would be better if you...., this one means a lot to me, I don't feel anything when I look at this photo. I'm going by how Maggie Steber edited my photos of Honduras. She went through them very quickly, editing 5000 photos in a week, and gave me comments like that, also ranking them 1-5. I would love to be able to employ Maggie full-time but instead I'm relying on free help from the LUG ;-) My goal with this project is mixed - I want to end up with salable stock photos (even though it is becoming increasing difficult to make a living with stock. Today Alamy sold one of my photos with commercial world rights in both e- and print books for 5 years and my share was $3.78). I intend to set up a website to sell my own stock this year. But I would also like to edit the photos for a book. Someday I would like to do a book for each of the countries I have photographed. I'm scanning Portugal as I edit Cuba. In other words, I need to objectively (hah!!) pick out the best photos. I think I can judge salability but I need help with the "this one is better than that one" judgments. I appreciate your support. I am spending way too much time in front of the computer. Out to the sunshine! Tina On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Bernard Quinn <bjq1 at mac.com> wrote: > > Tina, > > I am jumping into this thread late as I sit in the lunch room finishing my > lunch on a snowy, cold, wet March afternoon. Sorting and editing 16,000 > photographs is a Herculean task. Clearly daunting. I think that it is > perfectly reasonable to need some support with a job that size. I certainly > would. I agree with you. The LUG is a very good place to look for support. > Not only is it a family in its own way whose members really do care about > each other but it is a group of very experienced photographers even if some > of us don't exactly shoot in the same league as you and Ted. > > Please do not stop posting. That will not help you get through your > project and it would make our lives poorer. I think we should ask how we > can support you? It's perfectly true that you are going to edit your way > through this one photograph at a time. And perhaps the best way for people > to support you is one photograph at a time. But, there is a trap. > Photography is, at least in part, an art. Sometimes talking about a picture > involves asking questions which really do not have easy or simple answers. > What is too red for you might be just right for another viewer. Please do > not let your ego get involved on that level. It is going to cause you too > much pointless and useless pain if you let your self worth as a > photographer or worse as a human being be determined by what red means in a > photograph. That ties something important, you, to something indeterminate, > namely taste. > > What are your goals? What is the end point of this project? How many > finished photographs do you want to produce? I can understand understand > you sitting in front of your monitor crying. It's an overwhelming project, > but it is also a very sad image for me. > > Would some support and ideas about handling a project of this size help? I > do not know how you approach your editing, but here is what I would be > tempted to do. I would go through all 16,000 photos and select a core of > them, say a thousand but who knows if them to work on. I would then focus > on that. And, I would do so in a way which kept the perfect from being the > enemy of the good. A home who tries to prefect even pixel in 16,000 shots > is going to end up in the looney bin. > > Barney > > Barney Quinn, WK3Z > C: (301) 775-1386 > H: (301) 654-0938 > > > On Mar 19, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > OK this is driving me crazy. I didn't sleep at all last night and I > can't > > continue to edit my Cuba photos until I get this sorted out. This photo > > was made with my 50 Summilux, the sharpest lens I have. The way I judge > > sharpness is to view the photo at 100% - just like the stock agencies > tell > > you to. Here is a 100% enlargement of that photo: > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/159481904 > > > > Is that sharp or not? If not, there is something wrong with my eyes. > > > > Here is a shot a short time later with a little more light: > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/159481902 > > > > Here is a 100% enlargement of that shot: > > > > http://www.pbase.com/image/159481905 > > > > Is it sharp? Am I going blind? > > > > Please let me know. > > > > Tina > > > >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Tina, > >> > >> Technical wise I have no idea what's causing the effect because I've > never > >> given one twit of technical thought about photography! I just enjoy my > >> photographic love affair without question! :-) :-) HOWEVER? :-) > >> > >> 1/ It kind of doesn't look sharp? > >> 2/ If you kind of move your head about while looking at the screen it > >> looks sharp sort of when you kind of angle your head to screen.. > >> 3/It looks like it's sharp but blown - up a zillion times shot on ASA 1O > >> film. > >> 4/Looking through the four sizes none of them seem to have what I'd > call a > >> sharp Leica edge line anywhere. All edges seem to have a tiny bit of a > >> glow. Which appears to remove sharpness. > >> 5/ My first re-action was it was taken through one of those lenses that > >> nothing is ever sharp-sharp. It's the kind, one of the old time photogs > >> used on green peppers & people got wet pants with excitement when used! > >> They look kind of sharp. But? Looked kind of just off the super-sharp > edge. > >> 6/ Never mind all the various computer screens..... Run off a 13X19 full > >> frame B&W print. Then come back and tell us what it looks like? > >> > >> Certainly an interesting effect. But it has absolutely nothing to do > with > >> whether you focused the lens properly. And if this is the "ONLY FRAME > YOU > >> SEE IT ON????????????????" Don't sweat it! Write it off as some kind of > >> ATMOSPHERE situation." :-) > >> > >> Life is too short knocking yourself out over one ordinary image. Neither > >> is wasting the time typing all the e-mails back and forth. > >> > >> Just go and sit down, pour yourself a nice single malt and smile while > >> enjoying all the thoughts of the hundreds, nay, thousands of amazing > CUBA > >> photos you came home with! Now don't you feel better? NO! NO! Don't let > >> another thought about whatever this is enter your thoughts! And forget > >> "curiosity I just want to know???." > >> > >> Like, it just isn't worth all the time you and others have & are putting > >> on the screen. Sure folks curiosity want to know what made this effect. > >> Good for them. BUT? It's all over one frame of thousands you exposed? > >> > >> I'm right! MAKE ONE 13x19 B&W PRINT! GAME AND ANSWER, it's OVER! :-) > >> Because in print form it's going to look just fine as a print! And that > my > >> dear lady is all that matters in the end! Besides all your other photos > >> completely over ride all this!!! :-) > >> > >> cheers, > >> Dr. ted > >> > >> > >> > >> --- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >> http://www.avast.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > -- > > Tina Manley > > www.tinamanley.com > > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Tina Manley www.tinamanley.com tina-manley.artistwebsites.com http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html