Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/03/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks, Mark. That's why I'm asking for content editing help and not technical, at least that's what I'm trying to ask for. And asking the LUG is not like asking a general crowd. I thought. As for the B&W vs color, I am prejudiced toward B&W and sometimes need someone to point out why I should use color instead. I know that's a weakness of mine. Tina On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > Tina, post them but don't ask for technical advice. Like if its too dark or > too light or really anything like that. > I don't ask tech advice and I don't get that much. > I get "nice pic, Mark" and that's fine with me. And: > " reminds me of the taste of wild hickory nuts". Which starts my day of > just > fine. > When an established photographer shows somebody a picture I think it > assumed > they like it feel its a strong image and want to share it with you. See if > you also think so or maybe its leaving you a bit flat. Not contrast flat > but > emotionally. > Having someone tell a seasoned photog if they think it should be cropped > more or less or lighter or darker is a bit presumptuous. Unless they asked > them too! > In 50 years of showing people prints I can recall that happening to me once > it was a few years ago and a few months later they put the guy in the > looney > bin. True story. And coincidence. > Even when a novice photog shows me a print I'm reluctant to give that kind > of advice unless I'm sure its what they're asking me for. > I say "what kind of criticism are you asking for" > To which they invariably say "I don't know" > After which I give examples which are multiple choice. > And they still don't know. They're all very shy. > I just say if I'm responding to the image strongly or not. "this one I like > less than the others" is what I say to a god awful image.. > I'll say" did you make that one with a bit more contrast if so I'd love to > see it!?" Or > Is this when the camera went of accidently while it was hanging around your > neck? Is what I say when I'm being serious. > I think its unusual and uncommon for a seasoned photog to ask technical > advice from a general crowd. I'd advise against it. Its asking for trouble > With a capital T which rhymes with P and stands for Plus X! > > I'd strongly advise not putting up black and white vs. color comparisons. > These are decisions we need to make for ourselves and remind me of my very > early academic classes in photography. And most classes are academic or > should be. > That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. > > > On 3/20/15 10:19 AM, "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net> wrote: > > > Certainly NOT my intent. I enjoy looking at travel pictures... Yours, > > especially, but also Nathan's and Jay's, to name just 2. I mentioned the > > issue with the colors, only because I felt there was something amiss > with what > > I thought the public at large would have seen. Now that I understand the > > point of showing the particular pictures for content and comsposition, I > > understand that my comment was out of place. > > > > I apologize for interfering with your image flow. > > > > Please do not stop posting: Viewing them is my way of going with you, > > vicariously, to many parts of the world I will never see. > > > > Frank Filippone > > Red735i at verizon.net > > > > But now it doesn't look like dawn which was the whole point to me. > > > > I have fallen into the trap, again, of trying to adjust my photos to > please > > everyone. I will never get through 16,000 edits at this rate. Right > now, all > > I am doing is going through the photos as quickly as I can and selecting > those > > which might merit more detailed work later. I hit Auto in LR to get in > the > > ballpark. LR adjustments are non-destructive and I can go back to the > > untouched photo at any time. I post the ones I am considering and hope > for > > comments on the content and/or composition. Anything to do with white > > balance, exposure, lifting shadows, suppressing highlights, contrast, > > spotting, sharpening can and will be done much later, after I have > finished > > all of the editing. > > > > Maybe I should just post the photos straight from LR with no adjustments > at > > all? Or maybe I should just not post them at all. It's too > discouraging and > > demoralizing. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Tina Manley www.tinamanley.com tina-manley.artistwebsites.com http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html