Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/03/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Not sure I can add much here. I keep my monitor (Dell U2410, Spyder Pro calibrated for room light and color) at a brightness and contrast setting of 11/50 and keep the room lighting consistent. I think the default brightness is 50 which is too much and 100 is like looking into a searchlight. To print (in Photoshop) I make a duplicate image and set them side by side on the monitor, then load the paper profile for the duplicate. This gives a sense of how to adjust the duplicate for printing. Usually it is just a slight brightness increase with the curves tool, and sometimes a small saturation bump. To print, the Epson panel is set to "Photoshop manages colors" and the same paper profile is selected. The print is a good match to the monitor unless the viewing conditions are extreme. I say a "good" match since I don't think it is possible to have a perfect match with one source backlit and the other with reflected light. I don't use LR for printing but the process is similar with the LR soft proofing mode. That is for color. With B&W using Epson Advanced B&W or a RIP so far as I know there is not an easy way to soft proof. However, after a while I can usually make an educated guess. I used to use the ImagePrint RIP for B&W. It is excellent but I'm pretty happy with the Epson driver now. Ken On 3/1/2015 4:28 PM, Robert Adler wrote: > I now have 2 monitors: I have one darkened to match print output (I am > actually trying to have a different profile on that monitor for the paper > that I use) and one to work on for web viewing. I initially process for web > viewing. I find that most times a simple pulling up on the middle of the > curve adjustment in CC or LR works just fine for prints. Sometimes it gets > more complicated. > Bob > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> Similar. I noticed that, too. No matter how I calibrate the monitor, the >> prints are always darker than the monitor. Whether I was printing myself, >> or using Costso. Since two outputs were giving me the same results, my >> input must be at fault. So, then, I learned a few years ago to turn the >> monitor down. I downloaded Color HCFR and got it to work with my Spyder >> and found out the monitor was WAY to bright. The profile software for >> Spyder did not adjust the monitor brightness. I had to turn my monitor >> (Dell 1224 IPS) down to 17 to get to the recommended brightness. It looks >> pretty dark compared to my other monitor, but it works. Prints are dead >> on >> from monitor to my printer (R3000) or to Costco. The trend in consumer >> monitors seems to be bright and saturated, but that does not translate to >> a >> standard print file, evidentially. >> >> so, try getting the HCFR Colorimeter program and see if you can get it to >> work on your Monki. The crank that monitor brightness down. >> >> Aram >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Robert Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> >> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 4:02 PM >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Prints are way too dark. Driven to distraction >> >> >> Personally, I don't think your missing anything Lew. Even though these >>> calibrations are supposed to calibrate for "luminance", I tend to turn my >>> monitor down 2-4 stops to match a standard calibration chart that I've >>> printed on my printer. Then I adjust in CC or LR on a monitor that has >>> been >>> darkened by the above process. Seems really dumb, but it works... >>> Best, >>> Bob >>> PS-Please let me know if you find out differently! >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm printing on Epson Proofing, using LR 5.7, Epson 4880, ViewSonic >>>> monitor >>>> and I've just re-profiled monitor and printer using colormunki, plus I >>>> confirm that both monitor and printer are using the new profiles. The >>>> resulting prints are aprox 2- 4 stops too dark. Too dark is an on going >>>> problem for me, LR, the 4880 and this monitor; I expected things to get >>>> better after the colormunki stuff. I've just been winging a solution in >>>> the >>>> past by using the exposure control in the LR develop module and the >>>> brightness setting in the print module. Not a great solution, but >>>> workable. >>>> Now, with these new profiles, I'm not even close. WTF? Things are way >>>> worse. What am I missing? >>>> >>>> -Lew Schwartz >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bob Adler >>> www.robertadlerphotography.com >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >