Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/02/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I kind of maybe assume wrong that if a camera company real or imagined came out with a Leica M solution it should be able to be used with impunity on Leica M glass from ultrawide to darned long. (135mm) As if that's why its there and people put their 21 or 18mm on it and it looked like Coney Island at high tide not quite in the center people would complain and a few might have their credit card companies cancel the transaction entirely. Like a tree falling alone in the woods. The Sony A7 has looked real good to me from the start. I love its compact lightweight and bare boned industrial design. My D700 weights a ton. In the past week I've looked into it as a friend of mine in Puerto Rico just picked one up with a Canon adaptor but uses most the time I think with a Sony Sonnar T* FE 55mm f/1.8 ZA Lens which is supposed to give the Zeiss Zeiss 55mm f/1.4 Otus Distagon T* EF a run for its money. The Otus with no regrets gets called often the best normal lens in the world and cost 4 grand while the FE cost one grand and supposedly has specs to almost match. But the point here would be to use it with Leica glass and I cant keep track but all these cameras which do that people keep saying here they don't work with wides. For me that's a deal breaker became I'm a wide kinda guy. I have wides for breakfast. Right now my piggy bank says "20mm f/1.8G ED AFS" on it in blue magic marker. On my camera I've a just bought a 35mm 1.8G ED. My new lens line is all about Mr. ED. On 2/25/15 1:09 AM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > Mark sez: "Id love for a real camera company to come out with a simple and > concise full frame M glass solution." My full frame Sony A7s sits beside me > on the table with my pre-asph 35mm Summilux M on the mount. It also has had > my 15mm Voigtl?nder, 21mm Super-Angulon f4, 21mm Elmarit, 40mm Summicron C, > 50mm Summicron, 75 mm Summarit, 90mm Tele-Elmarit M lenses, (also fits my my > 90 Summicron R, 135 Elmarit R.) Admittedly it is menu intensive, until > customized the way you want, then the menus are hands off. I have another > simple and concise full frame M glass solution camera; a Leica M9. Both from > real camera companies . . . On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Mark Rabiner > <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > When the T came out I thought I was not the > only one who had no interest in > it as it was a cropped camera and the idea > of shooting thought the centers > of my Leica M glass does not appeal to me in > a compact camera I was > expecting an answer to Sony's RX1 a camera which like > the film based Rollei > 35 gave a Leica screw mount or M a run for its money > which fits in your > pocket and cost quite a bit less. > Leica though had > other ideas on undercutting itself and seems happy with > the > idea that you > need now seven grand to power your cache of Leica M glass. > This is ok as > other companies can supply that whim as they've done in the > past. > > The > Leica T has an interface which compares with an IPhone. > I'm not looking for > that as I can just about make a phone call on my iPhone > unless they go the > whole route and allow me to make phone calls with it. > Then I can stare at it > all day like everyone else does. Read War and Peace > on the back. > > My main > axe to grind is this camera is not vaporware as in a fig Newton of > some > software designers imagination. > Its crowd funding ware.. A new thing foisted > upon us in the camera > industry. > "I will come out with this cool camera if > you all pretend I'm Muscular > Sclerosis and send me a big pile of money" > Id > love for a real camera company to come out with a simple and concise > full > frame M glass solution. One which won't dissolve when everyone decides > they > are not their new favorite charity. > > On 2/24/15 4:40 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" > <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear Dr Ted it is a concept that they hope > will appeal to enough people > to > > get enough money so that they can try to > develop and market it. I think > > that it would be a formidable challenge to > produce especially with a > > comparatively miniscule R&D budget, no > manufacturing base or experience. > > As far as I know Kyle's figure of USD > 1300 was just a speculation on what > > people might pay for such a camera > > > The styling and concept looks to be copied straight from an actual Leica > > > (the T) > > Take a look: > > > http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-T/Leica-T-Camera-System > > It > has its own AF lens system and an adapter that allows the use of M > lenses > > > > > > > Cheers > > Geoff > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > On 25 > February 2015 at 07:28, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: > > > >> Larry > Zeitlin OFFERED:>> This looks very interesting. > >>>> M lens mount. > >>>> No > unnecessary buttons. > >>>> I really like the all digital rangefinder concept > - no mirror, no? > >> calibration worries. > >> http://konost.com/ > >> > =================================================================== > >> > >> > Hi Larry, Thanks for the heads-up on this new "LEICA LIKE CAMERA?????" > >> > ===================================================== > >> Hi CREW, > >> What > think you folks? Maybe some bright thinking people at LEICA should > be > >> > looking at a camera with these capabilities at a much lower price than > > what > >> they're charging these days??? > >> > >> If one thinks about this a > tad and considers that this "KONOST CAMERA" > uses > >> LEICA LENSES! No > fiddling around "click and mount your Noctilux or > whatever > >> LEICA glass" > with a capture capability of >>a 20mp Full Frame CMOS image > >> sensor <<< It > would seem? "HOW CAN YOU GO WRONG? If the price is much > >> lower > >> than > a new "M LEICA?" of today? > >> > >> In any event me not being a > camera/equipment testing photog? However? In > >> this case I certainly > wouldn't mind getting my hands and an eye to one > of > >> these "KONOST" FF > cameras! > >> > >> Given the details other than a firm price? This may become > a "MAJOR > >> CHALLENGING FOR LEICA??????? Simply because there isn't any > extra "lens > >> fiddling to be done!" Other than clicking it onto the body > and away you > go! > >> One just has to love it!!!!!!! :-) Truly KISS simple! > :-) By the same > >> token > >> let's hope that is true! > >> > >> It does > appear this is a truly "KISS CAMERA" for those who just want to > >> take > >> > pictures for fun and living happy without all the so called techie bells > >> > and > >> whistles! Truly a simple? "SEE-CLICK" camera! :-) > >> > >> Let's > hope so at a reasonable price! :-) > >> cheers, > >> Dr. ted > >> > ====================================================== > >> > >> -----Original > Message----- > >> From: LUG > [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On > Behalf > >> Of > >> > Larry Zeitlin via LUG > >> Sent: February-24-15 12:08 PM > >> To: > lug at leica-users.org > >> Subject: [Leica] Konost "Leica" > >> > >> Don't > knock the idea of a simplified all electronic Leica. With current > >> > technology it is MUCH cheaper to do things digitally than with precision > >> > made optics and mechanical parts. An all electronic rangefinder sounds > >> > great. No cams, prisms, movable parts. Less expense. There is no > shortage > > >> of > >> sensor manufacturers. Numerous approaches to doing away with > microlenses > >> have been offered. Some on this very list. Remember a camera > is just a > box > >> with a lens on one side and a sensor on the other. Almost > every thing > else > >> is negotiable. Leica doesn't have a lock on all the > good optical and > >> electronic engineers in the world. I am told that there > are a few in > Japan, > >> the US, and maybe even in Australia. > >> Larry Z > > >> - - - > >> This looks very interesting. > >> M lens mount. > >> No > unnecessary buttons. > >> I really like the all digital rangefinder concept - > no mirror, no? > >> calibration worries. > >> > >> > >> http://konost.com/ > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > http://photorumors.com/2015/02/23/konost-ff-is-a-full-frame-digital-rangefin > > >> der-camera-that-seeks-funding/ > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > >> > >> --- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus > software. > >> http://www.avast.com > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- > Regards, Sonny http://sonc.com/look/ Natchitoches, Louisiana 1714 Oldest > Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana > Purchase USA _______________________________________________ Leica Users > Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/