Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/01/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Lluis, Very well said, much to ponder there. Hey, I have that DVD on "The Art of Observation", can't recall right now who made it :), but time to watch it again. Ken On 1/14/2015 5:34 PM, Lluis Ripoll wrote: > Hi Ted, > > First all thank you for your words to my work, your words are, as usual, a > true lesson. > > I?m reading a small book recently published of interviews to HCB and I > realize several things, he has two special sentences that caught my > interest ?I?m not interested for the photography it is the life what > interest me? and ?the art of viewing is everything?. This sounds me?. > someone has make a DVD I saw several times ?The Art of Observation??. I > think your e-mail desserves a deep personal response. > > I think that when someone start into the photography the main concern is > take pictures, nice pictures, when you become more experienced the main > concern is capturing the essence of the life, and I think as well, you > shall be rich in your inner life to be able to view and capture the life > around you. Actually I?m mostly interested to read and know about the > thoughts of the great photographers than to see the images, imaging can > not be just an aesthetic result but a consequence of introspection, what > can otherwise help our gaze be surprised by everything we see?. When I was > young, I was admiring the great photographers visiting exotic Countries, I > was not able to do the same, on the other side I?ve discovered the great > humanistic photographers, Doisneau, Izis, Weiss, Ronis, Boubat, Riboud, > Mary Ellen Mark ? and many others and I?ve asked my self why are they > surprised by their look by the everyday life around them?? if they have > found it, I shall do an effort and try to find also the same impact. I?m > sorry for this explanation, but this explain one of the reasons how and > why I?ve became interested for the kind of photography I?m doing. > > You have said another memorable sentence: > > <<YOU CAN ONLY SHOW IT, TELL THEM, AGAIN & AGAIN! "But you ain't going to > teach it!>> > > I feel very honored and excited with the words you say to me, really, I do > not deserve such. Not if I can teach, however, I would be satisfied if he > knew how analyze their pictures. In the LUG we have a very high > photographic quality level, however I see much worth what abounds in the > world of photography, pure garbage from pictures made in the street who > think they are street photography, others taken with the sole obsession to > demonstrate the exceptional qualities of a new lens inadvertently falling > into marketing the manufacturers own favor, with many photographs > pictures. Perhaps this is a emerging new photographic specialty ?Camera > Tester"? > > I apologize if you think that what I have written I want to give a lesson, > is not it, I think it is the first time in my life I express with all > sincerity and humility what I really think and feel, and only show it by > gratitude and answer to my dear friend Ted. When something is done > spontaneously by instinct, is not a merit, it is a natural characteristic > to follow as simply as my friend advised saying "KISS" > > Thank You! > > Cheers > Lluis > > > > > > El 14/01/2015, a las 00:07, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> escribi?: > >> Peter offered this question too Lluis: >> >>>> Can you "translate" what you do by instinct into terms that ordinary >> people could >>> understand (especially people who don't understand photography anywhere >> near as you)? <<<<<<< >> >> Hi Lluis & Peter. >> May I interject here, please?" >> >> After being the key note lecturer for the "LEICA INTERNATIONAL CAPE COD >> SEMINAR" for 16 years. Not counting lecturing to amateur groups, >> university >> journalism classes and myriads of professional groups, mixed throughout my >> 60 plus years. A tad bit of experience. >> >> Trying to teach humans how to make their instinct re-act to a scene or >> situation is an almost impossibility. Humans are humans and their >> re-actions >> are not equal one unto another! Some are so slow the bodies are being >> carried away before they take the lens cap off! Or turn on the camera? Set >> the ISO! Or take it out of the case? Or they don't even see a picture >> lying >> face down twenty feet in front of them> OH sorry that was some "old one >> eyed >> guy!" ;-) >> >> I have as others on the LUG, been in Llui's presence when he is street >> shooting he is so fast! And I swear.... "INVISIBLE" to his subjects that >> he >> has the photo taken, turned ready to shoot something else in an entirely >> different direction and the subjects have absolutely no idea he took their >> photo. >> >> And no matter how well you explain and show brilliant images, the >> "SEE-RE-ACT-CLICK" can't be taught! You can explain it a million times in >> whatever language you wish! But if the people "DO NOT" have rapid fire >> natural born human instincts they will miss the "LlUIS TYPE PHOTO >> MOMENTS!" >> PERIOD! Or be extremely lucky! >> >> Instincts / re-actions are "to each his own." We're made that way. As >> often >> as you show images of sports figures in mid-flight of a dive or whatever >> during a jump, leap in the air there are those that after a 100 tries? A >> 1000 tries? >> Will still be looking at their camera to see what they set it at "OR SOME >> TECHIE THING?" ;-) >> >> Then there is Lluis with instincts I swear he feels the image before he >> see's & shoots IT! :-) >> >> Then today you have all those whiz-bang "FANCY-PHONE CAMERAS" that so many >> people have. And without question they nearly all think they are >> "SUPER-SHOOTERS!" "Oh I don't need any lessons I've got my super-camera >> i-Phone!" Added to the insult? "Oh what does he know! Look all he has is >> one of those "OLD-FASHION LEICA CAMERAS!" Throw their head back, walk off >> and sniff the air! "He's got one of those "old-time camera things! You >> can't >> even phone with it!" >> >> So OK, re-actions, instincts, swiftness of eye and trigger finger, CLICK?" >> Trust me.......... YOU CAN ONLY SHOW IT, TELL THEM, AGAIN & AGAIN! "But >> you >> ain't going to teach it! >> >> Not today with such auto-cameras on the market the holder believes he or >> she >> just has to aim it and it takes great action images. "Or the quick corner >> KISS in a bar!" ;-) >> >> However? Lluis being Lluis "The Great One" we all love and admire? He'd >> defy >> everything I've said and turn out a bunch of invisible LaRambla photo >> -snappers! :-) >> >> cheers, >> ted >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On >> Behalf Of >> Lluis Ripoll >> Sent: January-13-15 10:17 AM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] 4 Pics >> >> Peter, >> >> Thank you very much for your arguments, I shall have my thoughts about >> this. >> I don?t know if I would be able to communicate to others my instinctive >> reactions and be able to explain how and why I react to shot, but your >> questions are very interesting and help a lot. Thank you very much Peter, >> I >> will not forget? >> >> Cheers >> Lluis >> >> El 13/01/2015, a las 06:18, Peter Klein <boulanger.croissant at gmail.com> >> escribi?: >> >>> Lluis: I think you have many things you could teach, and you have a Web >>> "presence." Would you be comfortable with teaching? Can you "translate" >>> what you do by instinct into terms that ordinary people could >>> understand (especially people who don't understand photography anywhere >>> near as you)? Would you enjoy doing that? If the answer to these >>> questions is "yes," then I think you could do great workshops! >>> >>> --Peter >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Lluis Ripoll < >>> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Montie, >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for looking and for your comment! Do you really >>>> think >>>> that someone would be able to pay for?? ?. I would like it?., it will be >>>> nice ? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Lluis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El 13/01/2015, a las 02:44, Montie <montoid at earthlink.net> escribi?: >>>> >>>>> You should be holding "street photography" workshops! >>>>> >>>>> Montie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Happy Call >>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lluisripoll/16080258500/> >>>>> MM Lux 75 >>>>> >>>>> Enjoying Winter >>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lluisripoll/16241703526/> >>>>> MM, Lux 35 pre >>>>> >>>>> Confidentiality >>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lluisripoll/15645206044/> >>>>> MM, Lux 50 >>>>> >>>>> Cafe Zurich >>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lluisripoll/15647724153/> >>>>> MM, Lux 75 >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome >>>>> >>>>> Saludos cordiales >>>>> Lluis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information