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Subject: [Leica] OT: What would you do?
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:22:42 -0800
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Hmmm.. floating frame does need to stay. I bet you can get a climate
controlled shed in your yard for ~$10,000. May be worth the investment?

I agree don't give them away per se. Donate it to churches, temples,
schools etc. I bet Ohlone may love to get some...

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Tina and all. Still struggling, but all the varied answers are
> helpful.
> I'm not really trying to make any money, but don't want to loose any either
> or devalue the work by either giving it away (when others have paid) or
> defacing it before taking to the dump.
>
> Most the frames are floating frames made for each image: different sizes,
> etc.  I'm still considering storage somewhere... somewhere...
> Thanks again. Other suggestions welcome of course.
> Best,
> Bob
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Most of the work that I have donated to charities has been as
> photographic
> > work for them to use in fund-raising.  The way I get around the tax
> > donation is to charge them my normal rates for the work and then turn
> > around and donate that much back to them.  None of the charities I've
> > worked with has had a problem with this.  I don't know if you could work
> > something out like that for print donations, but it might be worth
> > investigating.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > That's correct.  Under ?170(e), IRC, the fair market value must be
> > reduced
> > > by any ordinary income that would be recognized on a sale. In other
> > words,
> > > for all practical purposes donations of self-created art are limited to
> > > cost of producing it.  It gets worse.  If the item is not self-created,
> > and
> > > is not donated "for the use of" the charity, then the deduction is
> > reduced
> > > by any gain that would be recognized.  So if you donate the Picasso to
> a
> > > charity for the purpose of the charity selling it, your deduction is
> > > limited to your cost.  And if the appraisal rules kick in, they apply
> to
> > > the total of similar items donated, not each individual item.
> > >
> > > It gets worse.  Suppose you are a really gifted photographer and you
> > > create a photo worth, oh I don't know, say $6.5 million and hang on to
> > it.
> > > You have probably created a death tax liability of 40% of that.  Enough
> > for
> > > one day.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/8/2015 1:18 PM, Wilbur Norman wrote:
> > >
> > >> In regards to Tina's comment:
> > >>
> > >> I believe the deductions she is referring to are for items NOT CREATED
> > BY
> > >> THE PERSON who is making the donation. So, if you donate a Picasso,
> you
> > get
> > >> a Fair Market Value. For items created by the artist donating, its
> > another
> > >> ball of wax.
> > >>
> > >> And, I believe the ceiling for NOT getting an appraisal is $5000 as
> > >> amended in the Pension Law some years ago (seems odd but thise folks
> in
> > DC
> > >> add non-related items to laws all the time.)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Wilbur
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *************
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Susan Ryan wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  Can you take a tax deduction for a charitable donation? If so, how do
> > >>> you choose a dollar value of the photos donated?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Sue
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>>  On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That's probably the best solution - donate to charity auctions.
> I've
> > >>>> done
> > >>>> that quite a bit and it's always appreciated.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Tina
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Doug Herr <
> > wildlightphoto at earthlink.net
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  Donate to charity auctions?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Doug Herr
> > >>>>> Orangevale, Sacramento County
> > >>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> > >>>>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> From: Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> Sent: Jan 8, 2015 10:07 AM
> > >>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > >>>>>> Subject: [Leica] OT: What would you do?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have a dilema. I'm moving back into my old home and clearing out
> > 25+
> > >>>>>> years of "stuff", Clean sweep.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I know some of you have been through this recently
> > >>>>>> (George/Tina/etc.). I
> > >>>>>> have a ton of framed prints that haven't sold at galleries/coffee
> > >>>>>> shops,
> > >>>>>> but that doesn't mean they aren't lovely (IMO).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> They are custom framed and mounted. Archival. The works. I don't
> > want
> > >>>>>> to
> > >>>>>> give them away (I think that devalues all art), and I don't want
> to
> > >>>>>> pack
> > >>>>>> and ship them to folks.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Please PLEASE suggestions? The dump just seems wrong..
> > >>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Bob Adler
> > >>>>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Tina Manley
> > >>>> www.tinamanley.com
> > >>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
> > >>>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-
> > >>>> 4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
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> information
> > >>>>
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> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tina Manley
> > www.tinamanley.com
> > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
> >
> >
> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bob Adler
> www.robertadlerphotography.com
>
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>



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