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Subject: [Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:07:23 -0800
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> On Nov 21, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Or as game theory suggests, there are three things to consider:
> You know what you know
> You know what you don't know




> And you don't know what you don't know


sounds like it,    I think ....?

which is why  serendipity always leads to the most important discoveries....


steve





> 
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steve: Are you telling me, as a Doctor, that I should take  2 aspirin and
>>> stop worrying?
>> 
>> 
>> one may be a bit too much....
>> 
>> the paradox re focussing with an EVF, is that the lenses that are always
>> in focus, are the hardest to focus, and the lenses that are the hardest to
>> focus, are easy to focus...
>> 
>> yes, yes it's true...
>> 
>> (maybe we need to share those asprins...)
>> 
>> steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Frank Filippone
>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of Steve Barbour
>>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 3:25 PM
>>> To: Leica LUG
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have been on the hunt for my "ideal" camera.
>>>> The Nikon D7100 is pretty good, lenses that are light in weight are
>>>> pretty marginal in performance.  ( relative to Leica lenses)  and it
>>>> does not offer a EVF.
>>>> The Fuji XE-1 is pretty great, but the smaller sensor is not quite as
>>>> useful as a FF sensor would be, for WA lenses.  I routinely shoot with
>>>> the WATE and a 21.
>>>> I was lucky enough to get a used A7 from a friend of a Lugger recently.
>>>> Bolted on a Leica 24 mm lens and went a shootin....
>>>> What I have noted is that as a WA shooter, it is really pretty hard to
>>>> focus precisely
>>> 
>>> only because it's almost always in focus....
>>> 
>>> 
>>> s
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> , due to the great DOF WA lenses offer....  Even magnifying the EVF,
>>>> the real plane of focus hardly is obvious....  Of course, the DOF
>>>> helps to get well focused images even if the precise focus plane is
>>>> not right on the money.
>>>> 
>>>> My M ( put in a number here) never did this.. it was always as easy or
>>>> as hard to focus, no matter what lens.  And ewhen in calibration, it
>>>> absolutely put the focus plane where it should have been, according to
>> the
>>> VF.
>>>> 
>>>> A Native Sony lens on this camera would be no easier to manually
>>>> focus, an AF Lens would be trivial.....
>>>> I am learning a lesson....  My "ideal" camera has yet to be
>>>> invented......or at least, it would need new AF lenses to go with....
>>>> 
>>>> I am somewhat inspired to say that the M (Type 240) is as close, on
>>>> specs, to "ideal" as can be gotten.....
>>>> EVF when you need it, Optical RF when you need it... best of both
>>>> worlds.....
>>>> 
>>>> Then again, I have said that before, different camera, same words......
>>>> 
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Bob Adler
> 
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Replies: Reply from rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler) ([Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....)
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Message from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....)
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