Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/11/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Except that a Leica R lens operates with more ease on an A series Sony than it does on any yet built M Leica. The A7s seems to have also solved the problems of wide angle Leica and V/C M lenses relative to real world use. It is not with humor or irony that I report this. It is with observation and experience. On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > On these points of rhetoric I agree whole heartedly here with Geoff. > I don't see the positive point in declaring that a camera which we can get > to fit a Leica lens on it is a Leica camera. There is no humor or irony in > it that I can tell. > > > On 11/1/14 7:22 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: > > > A good title for this thread might be: > > My next camera is a (fill in the blank whatever you want) ;-) > > > > speaking only for myself. My next Leica camera will be a Leica camera. > > I haven't worn out current ones yet though but 16000 images and counting > so > > far in 2014. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > Geoff > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > On 2 November 2014 09:03, Jim Gmail <jplaurel at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> A7 is not optimal with wide M-mount wide angle lenses, is it? Your M9 > >> will still give much better results shorter than 50 or 35mm, no? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Nov 1, 2014, at 15:49, "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Looking for the ideal camera: Lots of pixels, EVF, accepts Leica glass > >> if > >>> possible, AF when I need it, MF and attendant focusing aids otherwise, > >> not > >>> $8K, takes SDHC cards, great and dependable metering system, Full > Frame, > >> not > >>> a cropped sensor, etc. Built in flash is a bonus. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> What got me hooked was the EVF, and especially the enlarged EVF.... It > is > >>> addictive to be able to focus with a magnified view. I noticed this > on > >> the > >>> Fuji XE-1 I have, but the time delay from pushing the button and > >> something > >>> happening was too long . Maybe a XT-1 or XE-2 would have fixed that, > but > >>> then I would have had a cropped sensor, and I am a WA type of person.. > >> Not a > >>> great combo. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I have an M9. It is a great camera, but focusing is not optimum. > Lenses > >>> over 90mm are really hard to compose as the VF is pretty much a Hail > >> Mary at > >>> that stage. Some would say, go buy an M(240). It offers a similar set > >> of > >>> specs as I want. Easy to say, hard to part with the money for the > >> M(240). > >>> And the next iteration of Leica is bound to be yet another $1K. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I just received my new Sony A7. Had a cheapo Leica M to Sony mount > >> adapter > >>> hanging about, just in case I eventually bought the A7. Slapped on a > 50 > >>> ASPH Lux. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The benefit of more pixels is primarily the ability to NOT carry a long > >>> lens. You crop the image. Saves weight. Saves money ( no lens to > >> purchase > >>> ). I was not terribly into the pixel count issues, it is a nice side > >>> benefit as I very rarely carry a long (over 75 or 90mm) lens. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> When the opportunity presented itself, I decided to try out the A7 over > >> the > >>> XT-1. ( used, thanks to Doug, and his friend) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The image quality, with the A7 + Cheapo ( $12) Adapter + that LENS!!! > >> And I > >>> am just blown away with the resolution. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> At roughly 200 yards, at F2 ( and probably 1/8000 of a second) I was > >> able to > >>> distinguish a hawk sitting on the electrical poles near the house. For > >>> reference, the hawk was most likely 12-15 inches tall. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> At about 6 yards, same exposures setup, I was able to distinguish the > >> marks > >>> on the head of an old, crusty, 6 penny nail in my fence. Focus accuracy > >> is > >>> astonishing. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Metering is superb.something Leica's pseudo spot meter lacks. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> There is basically no delay from pushing the button to getting the > >> shutter > >>> to open. Even in magnified focusing mode. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> This kind of change does have its downsides.. My LR V4.4 will not read > >> the > >>> Sony files, but Adobe DNG Converter fixes that; There is no in camera > >>> correction for vignetting nor "distortion" ( as if Leica's pride and > joy > >>> mainstream lens needs too much); there is no EXIF file data to remember > >>> which lens you had on at any time ( which would not be at all important > >>> except for operations of vignetting and distortion correction.) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The camera does not have the same solid feel as a Leica ( any Leica > >> short of > >>> the CL and maybe the P+S models). It will probably die faster than a > M3 > >>> would.. Then again.. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I need to become more familiar with the operational buttons, and menus, > >>> however, I was able to get the camera working a bit more like I want > it. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I wish more than ever that I had a fleet of Leica R glass, but not a > >> single > >>> one was ever in my kit. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> It is not going with me tonight to shoot some fun fotos of a adult > >> birthday > >>> party. No twinkle flash. Then again, nothing really is ideal. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Frank Filippone > >>> > >>> Red735i at verizon.net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Regards, Sonny http://sonc.com/look/ Natchitoches, Louisiana 1714 Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase USA