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Subject: [Leica] [OM] IMG: The Blessing, Redone
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:55:43 -0600
References: <CA+yJO1Crid6+cwETpWziwQoM+KSXK9pZrKat2MsJK3g-0v2e3A@mail.gmail.com> <9CE092FB-72F1-44C1-836D-36D985A56CA8@frozenlight.eu> <CA+yJO1ALHZwtwhgE2M-Z7KttRiG538dyNGRjx3V-gM8mPdnU9Q@mail.gmail.com> <000001cffd38$fb289350$f179b9f0$@ca> <E0SA1p00e07g8Sg010SBEy>

Well, I have yet to have someone complain and wanting their zit back.  
But I do remove just really bad zits, the ones with neon. This somewhat 
reminds me of an interview I heard with Glenn Gould: Interviewer, 
sometimes it almost sounds as if there were two pianos...GG, In a manner 
of speaking, there were, as I laid down a second track.  Interviewer,  
Good Lord, man, do you realize what you're saying?  Or words to that 
effect.  Whatever, Tina's adjusted photo is far better IMHO.

Ken


On 11/10/2014 6:26 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
> She was not there as a news shooter, she was there at the invitation of 
> the DL.
>
> He had an ugly thing. It needed to be removed, if it was a zit it should 
> have been removed, but it was a stupid mistake by his handlers, and Tina 
> fixed it, just as if it were a zit.
>
>  From one old fart to another slightly older fart ;-)
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Sonny
>
>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tina & Nathan:
>>
>> My re-action is the same as both of you. It's there and I'm covering it 
>> as a
>> "NEWS EVENT?" The mike stays or if space and time allow. And I could find 
>> an
>> angle where the mike wasn't seen? I suppose shooting from his right-hand
>> side in this case?
>>
>> But only if there was space and it also afforded an interesting angle I
>> could move to. OR? I was allowed to move to, I would?
>>
>> That option doesn't always present itself at an event such as this.
>>
>> However, if nothing could be done then you run with the image you captured
>> with no concerns about the mike as it's part of being a photojournalist 
>> and
>> not a commercial shooter who would probably clean the shot up and remove 
>> it.
>>
>> But as Tina points out. When and if she were to sell it as a "commercial
>> photo" not a "news photo." She Might? Could? Maybe no mike in sight?
>> Particularly these days on a computer screen, it's a piece of cake! And 
>> that
>> is fair game.
>>
>> However? These days with so many unscrupulous characters with all kinds of
>> "recording devices?" What you see isn't real in many cases. Or they'd not
>> likely have seen the mike as a "Real Photographer would!" And if used in 
>> any
>> form of news event they'd change the reality of the moment. ERGO? It 
>> becomes
>> a lying cheating piece of untruthful piece of garbage! That should be in
>> file 13! The garbage pit!
>>
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
>> Behalf Of
>> Tina Manley
>> Sent: November-10-14 10:43 AM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] [OM] IMG: The Blessing, Redone
>>
>> If it's intended as documentary, I don't make changes like that.  This 
>> will
>> be used for stock and promotional photos, both of which are often much 
>> more
>> heavily manipulated than removing a mike.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Removing the mike crosses a line which I am not willing to cross with my
>>> own photos. But of course this is your photo and your decision.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>>
>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
>>>
>>> YNWA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 10 Nov 2014, at 17:10, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> PESO:
>>>>
>>>> I worked on The Blessing photo, desaturating the flowers in the
>>> background
>>>> and removing the mike from HHDL's mouth:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/158185541
>>>>
>>>> Better?  The two previous are the other editions.
>>>>
>>>> C&C greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
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>>
>> -- 
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