Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/12/14

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Subject: [Leica] Epson P600 printer
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:49:24 -0800
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I like the terms "OEM color pigs will give better longevity"

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It appears to be a rather standard Epson K3 pigment printer but with a new
> PK that has a new coating that allows a better dmax.  They are claiming a
> dmax in the high 2's.  I've actually hit 3 with a few other combinations,
> and, frankly, once you're at about 2.4 it's very hard to see any
> difference.
>
> The "Advanced B&W" printing will have the same limitations as usual,
> including no control of the distribution of the colors across the scale.
> But, with their own papers, hopefully they've done a good job with the
> profiles.
>
> QTR with OEM inks is usually better if you know how to use QTR -- including
> profiling if there are not pre-existing profiles for the paper and
> printer.  I don't know if QTR supports this printer, but probably not since
> it is so new.
>
> I have insufficient experience to know if OEM inks clog less than the
> current third party glossy-compatible inks.  With pigments on glossy paper,
> they have to be stuck to the paper someway.  So a somewhat sticky coating
> or a binder in the fluid base is necessary.  These significantly increase
> the clogging problems.  Frankly I use pigments (with no binder or coating)
> on matte paper and dyes on glossy paper.  Dyes have no binders and thus no
> clogging.  They also have no artifacts such as gloss differential,
> bronzing, etc.  So, my Epson 1400 is printing my gallery brochures (B&W) on
> Red River Polar Pearl Metallic paper as I write this.
>
> Of course, OEM color pigs will give better longevity.  However, where the
> Claria/Noritsu/UltraChrome D6 dyes are sprayed after printing, they can
> jump into the OEM pigment class -- rather amazing actually.  Wilhelm claims
> 98 years of display for normal Claria dye color prints behind glass.
>
> FWIW
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?sku=
> > C11CE21201&ref=van_p600
> >
> > This might be interesting.  Per Epson it is optimized for b&w prints,
> with
> > a better black.  I have used third-party b&w inks and the Quadtone RIP
> with
> > good results, but was never able to keep the printer from clogging (in
> > fairness the dealer tried to tell me I needed to print every day).
> >
> > Ken
> >
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In reply to: Message from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] Epson P600 printer)
Message from roark.paul at gmail.com (Paul Roark) ([Leica] Epson P600 printer)