Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/12/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]For me it was price. In the UK it started off at a very high price, which put me off. I use Lightroom daily but photoshop only occasionally nowadays. I may look into it again but my inclination has been to keep the PS I have and update Lightroom as and when it seems worthwhile. Currently packages start at ?27 a month (over US$40) which is probably quite a bit dearer than updates from time to time. Frank D. >________________________________ > From: Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2014, 23:47 >Subject: Re: [Leica] [OM] And now a Lightroom question > > >The only connection that Photoshop CC has to the cloud is that it connects >occasionally to confirm your subscription and to download upgrades.? It is >not connected all the time.? You do not have to have a connection to the >internet to use it.? Nothing is stored on the cloud unless you request it >to be.? All of my files are stored on my external hard drives.? The program >resides in my computer, just like Photoshop 1,2,3,4,5,6, etc.? I cannot >understand the reluctance to upgrade to this most efficient and productive >version of PS. > >Tina > >On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Lluis Ripoll < >lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just to add my 5 cents to this topic, I?m not in the Cloud, I use LR5 for >> the scanned negatives only, my usual software is Capture One 8Pro, I?m >> used >> to it and very happy. >> >> Cheers >> Lluis >> >> El 03/12/2014, a las 00:39, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> escribi?: >> >> > Yes, I have the same knife. Love Wusthof knives!! >> > >> > Tina >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Me too! >> >> >> >> Though I always slice my own bread... With a W?sthof 23 cm bread knife >> from >> >> sunny Germany. Goes through bread like butter! >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/2/14 3:18 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I think Photoshop CC is the best thing since sliced bread!? I >> subscribed >> >>> immediately and don't regret it. >> >>> >> >>> Tina >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at >> >>> gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Eh? You can use or not use any early version or the latest of >> Lightroom >> >> for >> >>>> which you have a perpetual licence for as long as you want under the >> >>>> licence conditions that have applied from the very first. >> >>>> >> >>>> There is no obligation to move to the subscription model for >> Lightroom. >> >>>> If you use both Lightroom and Photoshop in working with your images >> then >> >>>> you can get that bundle if you want. Basically a 12 month commitment >> to >> >>>> start. >> >>>> >> >>>> For me, that deal is excellent value. So much so that I don't even >> >>>> use >> >> the >> >>>> couple of perpetual licence models I have of both Lightroom and >> >> Photoshop. >> >>>> I really like the integration and the immediate availability of the >> new >> >>>> features >> >>>> >> >>>> Obviously how much you use the programs will influence their value to >> >> you. >> >>>> Or if you consider Adobe (and Microsoft I suppose) as devils >> >>>> incarnate >> >>>> determined to feast on your soul! >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers >> >>>> Geoff >> >>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >> >>>> >> >>>> On 2 December 2014 at 21:00, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> My copy of LR is 1.1 or something and my version of PSE is 4, but my >> >> old >> >>>>> Dell pc is 2005, and works too. I'm upgrading the pc when I move >> house >> >>>> in a >> >>>>> couple of weeks, but at 10 dollars a month and initial costs, it >> looks >> >>>> like >> >>>>> a future haemorrhage of money from me to Adobe for little real >> benefit. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Douglas >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Hopkinson" < >> >>>> hopsternew at gmail.com >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:24 AM >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] [OM] And now a Lightroom question >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> You can continue with the perpetual licence arrangement as always if >> >> you >> >>>>>> wish. >> >>>>>> Note that the current version is 5.7. >> >>>>>> As has been the case the point updates are free. Once LR6 arrives, >> >>>>>> whenever >> >>>>>> it does, you will need to pay for the upgrade. Of course if you buy >> >>>>>> something Leica new they will include a copy ;-) ;-) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Here the subscription model with Photoshop CC here costs annually >> >> $10, a >> >>>>>> new copy $175 and an upgrade $100. >> >>>>>> Those are very compelling numbers for me even without Photoshop but >> I >> >>>>>> haven't convinced you have I Nathan? ;-) ;-) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Cheers >> >>>>>> Geoff >> >>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 2 December 2014 at 18:11, Nathan Wajsman <photo at >> >>>>>> frozenlight.eu> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks to all who responded. It is clear that I need to upgrade to >> >> LR5, >> >>>>>>> so >> >>>>>>> I will bite the bullet and do so. As long as I am not forced in >> >> Adobe's >> >>>>>>> cloud service, it is OK. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>>> Nathan >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Alicante, Spain >> >>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> >>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >> >>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> >>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> YNWA >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On 02 Dec 2014, at 07:26, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> >> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I just discovered that my Lightroom 4.4 does not recognise the >> Fuji >> >>> >> >>>>>>> XT-1 >> >>>>>>> files. Poking around Adobe's sites I see no upgrade that would let >> me >> >>>>>>> read >> >>>>>>> those files directly into LR. So I am right now converting to DNG >> >> using >> >>>>>>> their converter and will then import those. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Are my choices really limited to using this clunky 2-step process >> >> and >> >>>>>>> upgrading to LR5, something which I otherwise have no reason to >> >>>>>>> do? >> >>>> (and >> >>>>>>> no, I am not interested in other RAW converters or in shooting >> JPG). >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>>>> Nathan >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >> >>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain >> >>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> >>>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >> >>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >> >>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator >> >>>>>>>> YNWA >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> >>>>>>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> >>>>>>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >> >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >> >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Leica Users Group. >> >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Leica Users Group. >> >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Mark William Rabiner >> >> Photographer >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leica Users Group. >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Tina Manley >> > www.tinamanley.com >> > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >> > >> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > >-- >Tina Manley >www.tinamanley.com >tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >