Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/11/01

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Subject: [Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 09:22:21 +1000
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A good title for this thread might be:
My next camera is a (fill in the blank whatever you want) ;-)

speaking only for myself. My next Leica camera will be a Leica camera.
I haven't worn out current ones yet though but 16000 images and counting so
far in 2014.



Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman

On 2 November 2014 09:03, Jim Gmail <jplaurel at gmail.com> wrote:

> A7 is not optimal with wide M-mount wide angle  lenses, is it? Your M9
> will still give much better results shorter than 50 or 35mm, no?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 1, 2014, at 15:49, "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Looking for the ideal camera:  Lots of pixels, EVF, accepts Leica glass
> if
> > possible, AF when I need it, MF and attendant focusing aids otherwise,
> not
> > $8K, takes SDHC cards, great and dependable metering system, Full Frame,
> not
> > a cropped sensor, etc.  Built in flash is a bonus.
> >
> >
> >
> > What got me hooked was the EVF, and especially the enlarged EVF.... It is
> > addictive to be able to focus with a magnified view.   I noticed this on
> the
> > Fuji XE-1 I have, but the time delay from pushing the button and
> something
> > happening was too long .  Maybe a XT-1 or XE-2 would have fixed that, but
> > then I would have had a cropped sensor, and I am a WA type of person..
> Not a
> > great combo.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have an M9.  It is a great camera, but focusing is not optimum.  Lenses
> > over 90mm are really hard to compose as the VF is pretty much a Hail
> Mary at
> > that stage.  Some would say, go buy an M(240).  It offers a similar set
> of
> > specs as I want.  Easy to say, hard to part with the money for the
> M(240).
> > And the next iteration of Leica is bound to be yet another $1K.
> >
> >
> >
> > I just received my new Sony A7.  Had a cheapo Leica M to Sony mount
> adapter
> > hanging about, just in case I eventually bought the A7.  Slapped on a 50
> > ASPH Lux.
> >
> >
> >
> > The benefit of more pixels is primarily the ability to NOT carry a long
> > lens.  You crop the image.  Saves weight.  Saves money ( no lens to
> purchase
> > ).  I was not terribly into the pixel count issues, it is a nice side
> > benefit as I very rarely carry a long (over 75 or 90mm) lens.
> >
> >
> >
> > When the opportunity presented itself, I decided to try out the A7 over
> the
> > XT-1.  ( used, thanks to Doug, and his friend)
> >
> >
> >
> > The image quality, with the A7 + Cheapo ( $12) Adapter + that LENS!!!
> And I
> > am just blown away with the resolution.
> >
> >
> >
> > At roughly 200 yards, at F2 ( and probably 1/8000 of a second) I was
> able to
> > distinguish a hawk sitting on the electrical poles near the house. For
> > reference, the hawk was most likely 12-15 inches tall.
> >
> >
> >
> > At about 6 yards, same exposures setup, I was able to distinguish the
> marks
> > on the head of an old, crusty, 6 penny nail in my fence. Focus accuracy
> is
> > astonishing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Metering is superb.something Leica's pseudo spot meter lacks.
> >
> >
> >
> > There is basically no delay from pushing the button to getting the
> shutter
> > to open.  Even in magnified focusing mode.
> >
> >
> >
> > This kind of change does have its downsides.. My LR V4.4 will not read
> the
> > Sony files, but Adobe DNG Converter fixes that;  There is no in camera
> > correction for vignetting nor "distortion" ( as if Leica's pride and joy
> > mainstream lens needs too much); there is no EXIF file data to remember
> > which lens you had on at any time ( which would not be at all important
> > except for operations of vignetting and distortion correction.)
> >
> >
> >
> > The camera does not have the same solid feel as a Leica ( any Leica
> short of
> > the CL and maybe the P+S models).  It will probably die faster than a M3
> > would.. Then again..
> >
> >
> >
> > I need to become more familiar with the operational buttons, and menus,
> > however, I was able to get the camera working a bit more like I want it.
> >
> >
> >
> > I wish more than ever that I had a fleet of Leica R glass, but not a
> single
> > one was ever in my kit.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is not going with me tonight to shoot some fun fotos of a adult
> birthday
> > party.  No twinkle flash.  Then again, nothing really is ideal.
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> >
> > Red735i at verizon.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
In reply to: Message from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
Message from jplaurel at gmail.com (Jim Gmail) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)