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Subject: [Leica] OT: Sony Sucks, big time
From: billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:33:40 -0500
References: <3B37FEB4-3FAC-411F-A550-A20037C3B760@frozenlight.eu><6613B562-AB26-45C3-B69A-CBE875A17038@acm.org> <peUV1n0030AFV7C01eUWYq>

It's not just that engineers can't write, it's what they write, jargon and 
such. When working for the airplane factory, as a photographer I had 
occasional contact with the guys from the handbook department. Moat of those 
guys were not engineers, and their job was to do translations from engineer 
to english.

Later I had a client that I had to edit stuff for a really lot as they 
handed me stuff written by engineers. Those guys could turn a phrase till it 
broke off.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Gmail
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:28 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Sony Sucks, big time

That's what happens when the liberal arts are discarded in favor of more 
"practical" majors.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2014, at 20:19, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
>
> Nathan,
>
> You may just have been a victim of the fact that most engineers cannot 
> write, whether it?s in English or Japanese.
>
> Here?s how I achieved fame in my department at Apple. A couple of guys 
> ?invented? a piece of software that gets independently invented at just 
> about every company that writes software. The system controlled editing so 
> that two or more people couldn?t simultaneously  make changes and step on 
> each other?s work. So, if one person ?checks the software out? for 
> editing, all others can get it on a read-only basis until the first person 
> checks it back in.
>
> I had to use this simple thing, and the write-up by it?s authors was so 
> damn unintelligible that I had to figure out how to work it by trial and 
> error. After then using it, I just decided, on my own to write a manual. 
> My boss was so impressed that I got an imaginative reward: three bottles 
> of wine a month for a year.
>
> Subsequently, I was picked to edit our release notes, which ultimately 
> grew to about 350 pages. I had a great experience editing the writings of 
> people, with a few exceptions, couldn?t write.
>
> Herbert Kanner
> kanner at acm.org
> 650-326-8204
>
> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>
>
>
>
>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 1:44 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have never owned a Sony camera, and now I know for sure that  I never 
>> will.
>>
>> We just bought a 65-inch Sony Bravia TV, one of the latest models, not 
>> cheap to put it mildly. Great picture, but we have struggling for 2 days 
>> with the simple task (or should be simple) to connect a garden variety 
>> laptop to the TV using its wifi interface so that the TV in effect acts 
>> as a computer monitor, but without the clutter of HDMI cables and all 
>> that. The menus and instructions for Sony products were apparently 
>> originally written in Klingon, then translated into Japanese and then to 
>> English. And it appears that unless your computer is a Sony Vaio, you 
>> have to perform various unnatural acts. Everything Sony seems to be 
>> proprietary.
>>
>> I think the TV is going back to the store (fortunately, we bought 
>> locally), to be replace by a Samsung or LG.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>
>> YNWA
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