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Subject: [Leica] Lluis' B&W tonality
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:56:27 -0600
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Lluis,

Thank you very much for the explanation.  Your b&w images have been an 
inspiration for me.

Ken

On 2/22/2014 12:45 PM, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
> Bob
>
> Thank you very much for your kind words, you and many others are not at 
> all novices, you made me very happy that my explanation help you, but I 
> don?t really deserve such kind words?.
>
> Cheers!
> Lluis
>
>
> El 21/02/2014, a las 08:25, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> escribi?:
>
>> Thank you Lluis. An excellent tutorial that gives a starting point to us 
>> novices who wish to develop our own processes.
>> You are very generous.
>> Best,
>> Bob
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you Susan, Gerry, Bob, Larry and others ? I really think I don?t 
>>> deserve such mentions, I?ve saw after years the B&W of many of many of 
>>> you are sharing with us, everyone has his own style and I don?t know if 
>>> I can explain my workflow as a certain rule ? , IMHO is a question of 
>>> the personal preferences. Even so I can explain why I work.
>>>
>>> I normally work in manual mode and in digital I prefer a little under 
>>> exposure than over exposure. Usually I prefer use old lenses, IMHO they 
>>> give more medium tones and less crispy images to work. When I process 
>>> the DNG I have certain ?own? rules, I try to avoid or at least minimize 
>>> the extreme tones of the Dynamic Range, Absolute Black (Zone 0) and 
>>> absolute white (Zone X), usually I start marking the white and the black 
>>> points, after I do a first arrangement using the extended Dynamic range 
>>> that offer Capture One (medium tones for shadow and lights), after this 
>>> I work with the curve to obtain the contrast I want, finally I work on 
>>> the classical controls of Exposure, Brilliance and Contrast an if it is 
>>> necessary I correct the previous values I?ve do. I edit the image in 
>>> Photoshop and I click in to the Automatic levels, generally I accept 
>>> what PS does. If the image is too flat I try to improve it with Silver 
>>> Efex Pro.
>>>
>>> IMHO Capture One is a great tool for work the B&W, it has different B&W 
>>> presets, and I have also build mines. The same thing with Silver Efex 
>>> Pro, I?ve never use the standard presets, I?ve build some own presets, 
>>> but rarely they work for a new picture, I have to modify different 
>>> things.
>>>
>>> When I work I always take care of the histogram, and I try to cover all 
>>> the range. Silver Efex Pro offer the histogram and the 10 zones, this is 
>>> useful for me, I can better correct extreme Zones 0 and 10.
>>>
>>> I don?t know if this can be interesting for you, I think is nothing new, 
>>> last Summer our friend Geoff was with me looking my workflow, I work by 
>>> my instinct and I think difficult made, as you say, a tutorial, this 
>>> sounds for me too pretentious?
>>>
>>> I hope have answered your question ?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much!
>>> Lluis
>>>
>>>
>>>> El 19/02/2014, a las 16:49, lrzeitlin at aol.com escribi?:
>>>>
>>>> Lluis,
>>>> I am always impressed by the tonal quality you manage to achieve in 
>>>> your B&W pictures. Especially when viewed on the new high resolution 
>>>> screen of my Macbook Pro. We may differ on matters of composition and 
>>>> subject selection but your B&W images are far superior to the bulk of 
>>>> those shown on the LUG. I mean no disrespect to other photographers but 
>>>> your pictures are in a class by themselves.? It can't all be the Leica 
>>>> Monocrom.? The results are just as good with every camera you use, even 
>>>> old film cameras. The big question is how do you do it??
>>>> Could you describe your workflow from shutter click to posting on the 
>>>> internet as a tutorial for less adept photographers. I would like to be 
>>>> able to get your results in B&W images.
>>>> Larry Z
>>>>
>>>>
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