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Subject: [Leica] I can focus my Noctilux
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:41:39 -0800
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On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Three issues I'm having with the Leica M + EVF and my Nocti:
> 
> 1.  I have to magnify the EVF image to see the eyes get "peaked"
> 2.  Once peaked, reframing after depressing the shutter halfway is needed 
> as the M only magnifies the center of the image. 
> 3.  There is a delay between depressing the shutter and the sensor being 
> exposed with the EVF (be design unfortunately!).
> 
> So I find it hard to use the EVF on people. Easier to just move my head 
> forward and backward with the optical range finder and get nearly instant 
> exposure when pressing the shutter button.  Hit rate seems better for me. 
> Non moving objects are just the opposite. 
> Just my experience.


let me see if I can speak to this now?been thinking about it on & off for 
hours.

can you see ?the eyes get peaked? without the EVF, if so how ?

if this is a necessity, how do you do it without the EVF?


s





>  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Which is a really interesting topic for me because all else being equal I
>>> find that the RF is much more precise.
>> 
>> 
>> more precise than what Geoff ?
>> have you given an adequate trial to focus peaking?
>> 
>>> That is to say that in my experience
>> 
>> what is your experience with focus peaking?
>> 
>>> there is a range of acceptable focus peaking effect as you move the focus
>>> ring (not dissimilar to a plain ground glass in effect?) but only one
>>> moment when the RF is truly aligned.However that is not taking into 
>>> account
>>> focus shift which the EVF negates for you.
>> 
>> so you 1. see better what you are focussing on 2. have a separate 
>> confirmation of focus  3. avoid focus shift (a biggie when you are wide 
>> open) 4. benefit from focus peaking for long lenses as you mention below
>> 
>>> Of course the RF is not very
>>> good at all if you want to use R lenses or long teles, or macros or third
>>> party adapted lenses!
>> 
>> 
>> so what's not to like?
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11 February 2014 08:40, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:17 PM, rgacpa at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whoop!
>>>>> Did you try it with just the range finder?
>>>> 
>>>> MUCH less certain
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> s
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> finally, at f1...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW+2014/glasses.jpg.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> focussed near lateral RIGHT rim, on RIGHT earpiece, 1/2 inch from the
>>>> rim...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Leica M 240 with Noctilux at f1, RAW file done with focus peaking,
>>>> using Olympus VF-2..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> many thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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