Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/01/31

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Subject: [Leica] Comparing B&W M9/MM
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 18:47:42 +1000
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Each with our own preferred methods for different scenarios. Just work with
what you have in any Leica body or any other I guess, just don't wish extra
stuff onto my next Leica ;-)
......I think I hear Ted entering the room....


Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 31 January 2014 13:47, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:

> The point is, for street photos, a simple +1 lever is simple and works well
> most of the time.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net
> >wrote:
>
> > Even if I'm sitting still my subjects are jumping in and out of different
> > lighting conditions with a wide variety of backgrounds.
> >
> > Auto exposure has not worked well for me unless the critter stays in the
> > same light as the background and is the same tonal value as the
> background
> > and if that's the case what's the advantage of auto exposure?
> >
> > Just more stuff I don't need to remember:
> >
> > Is the animal staying in the same light?  if so, is the meter going to be
> > fooled by the background?  if not then I can use auto exposure.  If this
> is
> > where AE works, what's the point of it?
> >
> > Doug Herr
> > Birdman of Sacramento
> > http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> > >Sent: Jan 30, 2014 6:36 PM
> > >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparing B&W M9/MM
> > >
> > >Different horses for courses. In a fast moving street situation,
> > auto-stuff
> > >is useful and one can learn exactly how much the meter is fooled. If you
> > >are sitting around in one area or in areas where the exposure is
> > relatively
> > >similar, then of course manual is just fine.
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Doug Herr <
> wildlightphoto at earthlink.net
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Or more precisely, the Leica large spot meter is a dumb, simple
> system
> > >> that
> > >> >does exactly what a dumb system does, accurately and predictably.
> What
> > you
> > >> >told it, not what you meant!  No training wheels ;-) ;-)
> > >> >When you get the wrong result (as I do regularly) the error is not
> > inside
> > >> >the camera ;-) ;-) ;-)
> > >>
> > >> Exactly why I use manual exposure 100% of the time.  The light meter
> is
> > >> totally, predictably dumb.  I never have to guess what the meter is
> > >> compensating for and guess how much compensation I need to reverse.
> > >>
> > >> Doug Herr
> > >> Birdman of Sacramento
> > >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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