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Subject: [Leica] Monochrom high iso test
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 22:26:23 -0800
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John McMaster showed:
Subject: Re: [Leica] Monochrom high iso test

Hi John,
 I don't care about all the details because I keep it always "KISS!" ;-)
WHY?

If the photo's look absolutely fabulous I don't care anything about the 
digital details!!  WHY? Quite simple really, as the viewer paying for my 
services only looks at the photograph, content and quality of the print with 
the impact of the image! Like who cares how many widgets/digi-mights it has 
or how?

Your images are amazingly incredible quality fantastic! I would like to see 
them in print 16X20 or larger? But I have no doubt they'd blow me right out 
of the water with there beauty and reproduction! :-)

I am about to begin a book for the university celebrating the first ten 
years celebration since the university began it's medical school! I hope to 
use a monochrome M as the main camera? Certainly since seeing the quality 
you have displayed here! Truly amazing fantastic quality! Thank you! :-)

cheers,
ted




>A couple of examples:
>
> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2013/27/content/L2003238_large.html
>
> http://johnmcmaster.com/PESO/LUG/05-TwilightZone/content/L2003805_HDR_large.html
>
> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2013/41/content/L2004005_large.html
>
> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2014/02/content/L2004327_large.html
>
> You can start to see the effect in these 1200 pixel images, it looks 
> lovely in the original......
>
> john
> ________________________________________
>
> OK, THAT is hard core :-)
>
> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:41 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> 
> wrote:
>
>> Ditto, I often use an ND1.8 so I can use 5000 during the day ;-)
>>
>> john
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>> I love the texture at ISO 5000 so much particularly in low light with
>> lower contrast lenses, that I don't do anything to the noise.
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 28 January 2014, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Just out of curiosity, does anyone who do all sort of tricks to get
>> > "better noise behaviors" etc. have good photos to show?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jay Burleson
>> > <leica at jayburleson.com<javascript:;>
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > I am more apt to follow Ted's advice and just go out and shoot, but
>> > enough
>> > > interest has been raised here and on other forums for me to
>> > > undertake
>> > this
>> > > absolutely non-scientific test.
>> > > There has been some chatter about deliberately underexposing the M9
>> > > at a lower iso and then pushing the exposure in post to get better
>> > > noise results, and questions have been asked, since the Monochrom
>> > > shares the
>> > same
>> > > base sensor as the M9, if that would work with it.
>> > >
>> > > The answer is yes and no.
>> > > It is doable, but (to my eye), there is no appreciable reason to do 
>> > > it.
>> > > There is a slight (approx. 1/4 stop) gain in the highlight side of
>> > > the histogram, but the overall noise is the same, and when fully
>> > > processed,
>> > no
>> > > real differences.
>> > > It does demonstrate how much detail is available in the Monochrom
>> > shadows;
>> > > a 5 stop push on the underexposed image was just fine.
>> > >
>> > > #2171: iso 10000, -.3 stop exposure compensation, no other Lightroom
>> > > adjustments.
>> > >
>> > > #2172: iso 1250, -.3 stop exposure compensation, + 3 stops exposure
>> > > added in Lightroom.
>> > >
>> > > #2171A: Additional post processing in Lightroom to look correct (in
>> > > my opinion).
>> > >
>> > > #2172A: Additional post processing in Lightroom to look correct (in
>> > > my opinion).
>> > >
>> > > The images are here:
>> > >
>> > > http://jayburleson.com/leica/misc_images/mm_iso_test/
>> > > --
>> > > Jay,
>> > >
>> > > Jay Burleson Gallery
>> > > <http://jayburleson.com/leica/gallery/index.php/>
>
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