Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/12/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]"Children with Dead Pig" certainly belongs in a serious collection. Like in a museum!! On 12/31/13 4:22 PM, "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> wrote: > Thanks, Geoff! I do love the Noctilux. Sometimes you really need that > shallow depth of field. I think it works for this one: > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/71197205 > > Everything sharp would not have been as good. > > Many of these are with the Noctilux: > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/honduras&page=all > > I really needed the 1.0 and fast film in those dark houses. Today, I'd > probably use the 1.4 and M240 with higher speed for most of them, except > when I need the shallow depth of field. > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/144348674 > > Tina > > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at > gmail.com>wrote: > >> Unless someone actually posts pictures to illustrate these opinions, you >> guys are all going to be in so much trouble if Dr Ted sees this thread. >> ;-) >> I know that Tina and Ted are masters of these lenses wide open. Let's see >> your stuff. >> >> I just stopped the (borrowed) thing down because that was the light I had >> and the DoF I wanted too. >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/153201969 >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/153260573 >> >> >> Cheers >> Geoff >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >> >> >> On 1 January 2014 06:55, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote: >> >>> The difference between the DOF of a 50/1.4 and 50/1.0 lens is actually >>> pretty minimal. >>> >>> Both are hard to nail critical focus, especially close in. With the EVF >> of >>> the M or Sony or Fuji, the issues of focus are remarkably reduced. >>> >>> The real difference between the various (age) 50's is the fingerprint of >>> the lens, weight, and cost. >>> >>> If you are not in favor of weight around your neck, then all 3 Noctis >> fall >>> off the list, closely followed by the ASPH Lux. The lightest is the more >>> recent (black) Summicron. >>> >>> If you can not afford $3-10k for the lens, then the choice boils down to >> a >>> Summicron. >>> >>> Fingerprint is so subjective. But for pure unmitigated sharpness, the >> ASPH >>> Lux is the clear winner. >>> >>> I am (almost) down to only the ASPH Lux. And have no regrets. Absolutely >>> great lens. >>> >>> Frank Filippone >>> >>>> On Dec 31, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> No matter what you do with a sensor, a 1.0ish lens shooting wide open >>> cannot be duplicated with a 1.4. Even just from a depth of field stand >>> point, let alone the other characteristics of using such a fast lens wide >>> open. So, if that is what you want it is indeed necessary. >>>> >>>> Aram, who owned a 1.2 lens at one time but could no longer focus with >> it. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Man >>>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:07 PM >>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Noctilux >>>> >>>> I think with the modern digital sensors and cameras, very few lens are >>>> truly "necessary," and most are a matter of "wants." Nothing wrong with >>>> that since I succumb to gear lust myself, but the world's best pictures >>> are >>>> seldom taken by the world's most expensive and best lens. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Henning Wulff <hjwulff at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The 0.95 is as good as it gets at high speed, with the well understood >>>>> downsides of price and size. At smaller apertures the pictures are >> hard >>> to >>>>> distinguish from Summilux-ASPH pictures, but the large size and price >>>>> remain. Focus shift exists but is quite manageable. It is the only one >>> of >>>>> the three that can be considered an all in one lens, if you can live >>> with >>>>> the size. This lens, like the other Nocti's focusses down to only 1m, >>> which >>>>> is a distinct limitation in comparison to the slower current 50's and >>> in my >>>>> opinion its main operational failing. >>>>> >>>>> The f/1 is of much lower contrast at wider apertures, but also >> sharpens >>> up >>>>> nicely with the downside of considerable focus shift. It has >> incredible >>>>> flare tolerance which allows it to capture images that no other lens >>> seems >>>>> capable of. A lens shade is largely pointless. This is a lens that is >>> not >>>>> easy to master and renders in a unique way, but the rewards are great. >>> Our >>>>> Dr. Ted did most of his medical photography for his books with this >>> lens, >>>>> and mostly at f/1. True mastery! >>>>> >>>>> The f/1.2 is pointless unless you plan on placing it in an honorary >>>>> position in your collection. Current prices are exorbitant, and it is >>> not >>>>> as good a lens overall as the f/1 while being slower. It is a much >>> softer >>>>> version of the old Summilux 50. The Nokton f/1.1 is definitely a >> better >>>>> lens overall. >>>>> >>>>> If you have the Summilux ASPH and an M240, the 0.95 is not as >> necessary >>> as >>>>> it was with the M9, but it of course still allows a little but lower >>> light >>>>> subjects to be recorded successfully (as long as they are at least one >>>>> meter away) with shallower dof, but the f/1 will allow a different >>> vision, >>>>> if you are willing and able to master it. >>>>> >>>>> I used to have an f/1.2, have used the f/0.95 and the Nokton f/1.1 and >>>>> currently have the f/1 and the Summilux ASPH. >>>>> >>>>> Henning >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-12-30, at 9:30 PM, David Ching <davidhhching at yahoo.com.sg> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Emanuel, >>>>>> >>>>>> The Noct f0.95 is surely superior in some ways to the Lux 50 ASPH or >>> the >>>>> Voightlander Nokton f1.1 of the later two which I have. >>>>>> How would you rate the 3 Noct versions , f0.95, f1.0 and f1.2? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> David Ching >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Henning Wulff >>>>> henningw at archiphoto.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/