Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/12/02

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Subject: [Leica] Is my M8 turning into a paperweight?
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 01:25:53 +0100
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Geoff, it is processing then how come I see it as soon as the image appears 
on the screen, before any processing is applied? When I import the RAW files 
into Lightroom, I do nothing to them, whatever processing I do is done 
manually afterwards.

Cheers,
Nathan

On 2 Dec 2013, at 22:01, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:

> I need to amend what I just said. I looked again at your sample in full
> size. I was wrong thinking you had fine blue lines (from pixel or sensor
> electronics problem).
> Your image shows banding. That really  looks like a processing artefact to
> me. I bet you can reproduce it from a big underexposure with the darks
> lightened in developing. The effect would be more or less obvious depending
> on content and ISO too.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
> On 3 December 2013 06:54, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have never heard of a card problem producing these fine lines on an
>> image myself. Corrupted writes, sure.
>> If you do buy a new card, just put it in the camera and format it there
>> once and then test if you want to check that theory though.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>> 
>> 
>> On 3 December 2013 01:34, Jay Burleson <leica at jayburleson.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Download SD formatter
>>> https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/
>>> And use it as directed.
>>> 
>>> Jay
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 2, 2013, at 2:51 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Jay, will give it a try. I rotate my SD cards, so no single card
>>> should be "worn out" yet, but given how cheap they are, I will buy a new
>>> one and see if it makes a difference.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Dec 2013, at 04:37, Jay Burleson <leica at jayburleson.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan,
>>>>> A fix may be as simple as a new SD card.
>>>>> I've read of well used cards exhibiting artifacts like that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/1/2013 12:04 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>>> I bought my M8 new in December 2008, and have taken perhaps 20,000
>>> pictures with it during the 5 years I have owned it. Lately, I have 
>>> noticed
>>> that pictures taken in low light (so ISO of 1250 or sometimes even 640)
>>> have the horizontal line problem with increasing frequency. Last night we
>>> had friends over for Thanksgiving dinner, and to my dismay, the problem 
>>> now
>>> even occurs at ISO 320, as in this picture:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/belgiangator/misc/20131130-L1010169.jpg.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is the first time I have seen this phenomenon at such a low ISO.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now I wonder if it can really be that a sensor "wears out" after so
>>> few actuations? Obviously, the camera is long out of warranty so sending 
>>> it
>>> to Solms is not an option. Have others experienced this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In any case, I am taking the Fuji X-Pro 1 with me to Korea later
>>> today, it is a much better choice at this time of year when the light is
>>> low in northern latitudes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
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