Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/11/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Nope, far more accurate than that ;-) And yes it is still superb stopped down... john > -----Original Message----- > > Hey Geoff, > Yup. f/0.95 is a crap shoot at best; with a moving target one in 10,000 if > you're > lucky! > But I understand this Nocti stopped down is so close to the 50 'lux ASPH > it's > almost indistinguishable. > So options are good! > As far as the background being lit to paper white, etc., sounds like hooey > to > me. That's what a calibration shot and RAW processing are for, IME. Do that > and you won't loose a pixel of white. Even if you do, that's what BW is > for. ;-) > I would just like to see you produce something with your unique voice. You > have mastered the basics, now take it where you feel... I'm waiting for > your > unique and extraordinary view!! > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Nov 2, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Well now Bob, if you'd like to continue chatting about this, it's > > valuable to me of course. > > To recap on the specific setup, this was a shared studio space with 11 > > other photogs. Maybe 5 minutes max on a rotation with each setup and > model. > > The initial setup was established by the instructor who then > > demonstrated the variations possible by directing the model within the > > provided light (feathering/angles, distance etc.) With the shared > > light packs and timing it was good etiquette to not change the packs > > settings (although I got caught on occasion where one or two others > > had) > > > > The lighting baseline was setup with a tethered HD50 or similar and > > clipping levels established for printable with whites (B'grounds) set > > to be just about on that. If you just clip those without control you > > get some loss of quality/contrast in the rest. > > > > So was set for the Canons that were in majority with base ISO of 100. > > The M of course has a base of 200. So add a stop to the given setting. > > Actually in my experience f/8 say on an M prime ain't f/8 on something > > else. My lenses slurp in light with alacrity. > > f/9 is pretty standard for this studio and instructor. For fashion you > > just need to be confident that you have front to back sharpness even > > with a faster shooting/posing sequence. Moving models ain't benches or > > mountains > > ;-) ;-). Actually I often ask for a slower pace as these folks might > > show you 50 pose variations in a couple of minutes if you aren't > > directing in detail and these professionals are largely waay better at > > directing themselves than I. The shooting rhythm is important for mood > and energy too. > > For portraiture of course there are different considerations (and > > personally I very much favour f/4-ish for the look I want the way I > > shoot that. > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/148571637 > > > > Open the lens up more and you get a different result of course. > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/148037826 > > > > I did shoot a portion of that day with available light but my strike > > rate with the borrowed Nocti opened pretty wide was quite poor. Not > > the lenses fault of course. > > > > > > Cheers > > Geoff > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > > >> On 2 November 2013 13:45, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I thought you said you were having to shoot at f/16ish. A 1.8 ND > >> would, of course, allow you to shoot at f/2 or 1.4. If, with the ND > >> on, if you wanted more DOF, you could of course increase your ISO. > >> And without a change in lighting. > >> Curious as to why you may be resistant to this my friend. I think you > >> could add a more unique and definitive look to your images... > >> Especially with such a unique lens! > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >>>> On Nov 1, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Geoff Hopkinson > <hopsternew at gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> For this studio purpose f/8-9 is pretty usual actually for DoF. When > >>> sharing studio light packs at a workshop its not polite to vary the > >>> established power settings else my solution would have been simple > >>> ;-) > >>>> On Nov 2, 2013 12:03 PM, "Robert Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Get a 3 or 4 stop ND filter... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Geoff Hopkinson > >>>> <hopsternew at gmail.com > >>>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Just a loaner with an M body! Mine presumably in somebody's To Do > >>>>> pile > >> in > >>>>> Solms. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers > >>>>> Geoff > >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2 November 2013 10:01, John McMaster > <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Whatever gets the shot you want, but it would be a bit of a waste > >>>>>> if > >>>> your > >>>>>> own money ;-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> john > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yep, understood. Just some impressions/preferences from me re > >>>>>>> the > >>>>> graphic > >>>>>>> elements in the shots. > >>>>>>> PS Am I bad to have stopped the Noctilux down to f/11 or f/16 in > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>> studio > >>>>>>> ;-) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>> Geoff > >>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 2 November 2013 08:04, John McMaster > <john at mcmaster.co.nz> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I went out with the Monochrom and no NDs one day, felt I was > >>>>>>>> really stopping the 50mm Summilux asph at f4 ;-) Many of things > >>>>>>>> look > >>>> nothing > >>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> taken with more DoF... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> john > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> John you're getting good at this strong graphics elements > >>>>>> composition > >>>>>>>> stuff! > >>>>>>>>> Blasphemy maybe but you could afford to stop down for more > DoF > >>>>> (show > >>>>>>>>> me sharp through and through on those main elements in some) > >>>>>>>>> and preserve those highlights of course for Lightroom surgery > later! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>>> Geoff > >>>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 2 November 2013 06:42, John McMaster > <john at mcmaster.co.nz> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> A bit of sunshine amongst some heavy rain.... > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2013/44 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> C & C welcome > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> john > >>>>>>