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Subject: [Leica] Nikon vs Leica first test results.....
From: scottgregory at mac.com (Scott Gregory)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 22:59:12 -0400
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Ken any thoughts you care to share on the 14? I've been thinking of adding 
one to mine. 
Scott 

> On Oct 4, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> I now have the Fuji X mount 14mm 2.8, 35mm 1.4 and 60mm 2.4 (21, 50 and 
> 90).
> They are FAR sharper than any Leica lens I own :) :)
> 
> Ken
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> Robert
> Adler
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:13 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nikon vs Leica first test results.....
> 
> Sharpness is highly overrated...
> :-)
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
> verizon.net>wrote:
> 
>> Don?t get on my case, this testing if for me?.  YMMV
>> 
>> ( Ted, go take a blood pressure pill or push the delete button).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lenses:
>> 
>> 18-35 AIS F3.5-4.5 lens  ( Non ?G lens)
>> 
>> 24-85 AF S G F3.5-4.5 non-VR Lens
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have several other Nikkor lenses, all fixed FL, but for this stage, 
>> they will not be tested.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Methodology:  In this case, I took my 2 ?new? lenses on my D1x body to 
>> see what they could do, hand held at F3.5 or as open as possible  
>> Figure the day was a sunny 16, so the shutter speed was up there.?..  
>> NEF Images were taken and neutrally processed in LR4.  I was pixel 
>> peeping at 1:1.
>> 
>> No companion Leica images.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The body is a Nikon D1x  ( 1.5 crop / reduced format /small / old 
>> technology / cheap / maybe they call it DX format?  APSC format?)
>> 
>> Why?  Because I own one and it was sitting in my bag.  I do not own 
>> (yet) and did not rent (yet) the expensive part of this project, a 
>> full frame D800e ( or similar).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Implication: I was using the center of the frame?. The ?sweet spot? of 
>> the lens. Not exactly pushing the lens for its best.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Images were taken outside of my back patio?. The subject were some 
>> high voltage towers about ? of a mile away.  Basically infinity.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Without a lot of wasted verbage:
>> 
>> First, the S lens ( silent wave) focus motor DID work.  Yes, I read it 
>> should work, but more importantly, it DID work.
>> 
>> Second.. there is difference in the color of the images? John, right 
>> on that subject?.  I think a bit of work in either color balance or 
>> just image warmth would neutralize that.  No big deal.  I could not 
>> find any CA or other weirdness in the images.
>> 
>> Third, the images came back pretty sharp?.. in the corners it was just 
>> fine, center it was as good.  ( Zoom lens vs fixed FL issue resolved.  
>> Good enuf is good enuf).  They passed the first requirement? sharp 
>> enough on my existant camera.  ( if they failed on this camera, they 
>> would have really done poorly on a D800e so I would not have 
>> continued)
>> 
>> Fourth, it fits in my camera bag ( at least the smaller 24-85 does.  
>> The
>> 18-35 is a bit too long.
>> 
>> Fifth, the BEST output came from my 1980?s vintage 50mm F1.4 AIS 
>> manually focused lens at F4.  No surprise to me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, first cut, the idea to replace Leica with Nikon is still a 
>> go?.testing will go further?. And be more precise and fussy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Frank Filippone
>> 
>> Red735i at verizon.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
> 
> 
> 
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