Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/07/31

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Subject: [Leica] Light and shadows
From: jsmith342 at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:40:20 -0500
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In the documentary about HCB, he speaks (in halting English) about the 
concept, and seems to be describing more of "on the fly" than the decisive 
moment. As I recall, he treats the idea as having the instinct of when to 
pull the trigger, so to speak, rather than any sort of careful preparation. 

I have HCB's biography, but haven't started reading it yet. 

On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> 
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ted,
>> 
>> Thank you very much for your very kind words and to have take the time to 
>> wrote it. Your opinion is "humble" according to your great human 
>> personality, but  always a Master Class! you are right, the first photo 
>> is the best. I've catch the boy completely "a la sauvette" (cut)
> 
> ******
> Lluis, Ted, friends of the LUG, my friends,
> 
> this phrase used by Lluis is of course from the title of Cartier Bresson's 
> famous book. These words have often troubled me,  what is the real meaning 
> of this phrase......?
> 
> perhaps something like ,     on the fly...    unguarded, unauthorized, 
> without permission, spontaneous....   who can really say ?
> 
> the title  "Images a la sauvette"    has been translated as "the decisive 
> moment",  but this, almost certainly, is at best, a very loose 
> translation, possibly a title selected out of commercial motivations, even 
> so it has assumed a most profound significance in the world of photography.
> 
> Surely we can do better, what does it really mean ?   why? Does it tell us 
> something about the way HCB worked ?
> 
> Please give me your thoughts on this....The answer to these questions, 
> might bring us to the motivations, the methodology of Henri Cartier 
> Bresson, one of our most iconic photographers.... 
> 
> Steve Barbour
> 
> 
>> I was just preparing my camera when the boy appeared in front of me and 
>> followed your frequent advice KISS! and I've remembered you after 
>> shooting it! After this one I went to shoot two more shots of the shadows 
>> but I'm not able to be at one place waiting for the opportunity and I've 
>> quit the place soon.
>> 
>> About the Leica..., the thing is that I think I will be really not able 
>> to use any other camera, I can't use the cameras with monitor or too many 
>> automatic devices, I'm really happy that Leica has continued his design 
>> with digital cameras.
>> 
>> Thanks again for the kind words
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Lluis 
>> 
>> 
>> El 29/07/2013, a las 21:18, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> <tedgrant at shaw.ca> 
>> escribi?:
>> 
>>> Lluis Ripoll showed:
>>> Subject: [Leica] Light and shadows
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/L1033671BN.jpg.html>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/L1033673BN.jpg.html>
>>>>> Leica M8, Summilux 35mm pre
>>> 
>>> Hi Lluis,
>>> 
>>> The Leica Master at it again (My God someone actually using a Leica 
>>> Camera for a change!!!!)  With light and shadows!!! :-) No question, the 
>>> little boy is by far the better of the two. Actually in a hard nose 
>>> critique I don't think the man and shadow in the second photo rates 
>>> being there when you compare both.
>>> 
>>> I believe you should've posted only the boy. My humble opinion dear 
>>> friend! ;-) ;-)
>>> 
>>> However, in posting both you give us options on which is the better! :-)
>>> As I see, a few others have picked the boy also.
>>> 
>>> But the big thing for me is someone posting photos shot with a LEICA 
>>> CAMERA! Rather than all these strange others with funny names and 
>>> numbers!!! And as it appears with a great deal of inbreeding of lenses 
>>> and adapters to make them work! :-) ;-)
>>> 
>>> Really gentlemen and ladies, it's almost blasphemy to call this the LUG 
>>> any longer considering the mish mash of funny techie cameras being 
>>> bantered about!
>>> 
>>> Once again, just my humble opinion as the world turns and changes.
>>> 
>>> However I believe Lluis will always be our Leica savior! ;-)
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> ted
>>> 
>>> 
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