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Subject: [Leica] Fwd: Thoughts about black and white...
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:56:21 -0700
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> On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>wrote:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Thoughts about black and white...
> 
>> Leonardo da Vinci
>> ?  did not have a camera, but he did his paintings in color.  His drawings
>> were often  duotones.
> 
>> You don't often encounter portraits painted in black and white.
> 
>> I never see flowers in nature that are black and white.
> ================================================================================================================================================
> But there were paintings in monochrome.   It's known as grisaille.
> 
> Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia, and the full link.
> 
> Grisaille
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> 
> Grisaille (/?r??za?/ or /?r??ze?l/; French: gris [??izaj] 'grey') is a 
> term for painting executed entirely in monochrome or near-monochrome, 
> usually in shades of grey. It is particularly used in large decorative 
> schemes in imitation of sculpture.



and if you are really into color...

you can paint statues (I guess).


Steve


> Many grisailles in fact include a slightly wider colour range, like the 
> Andrea del Sarto fresco illustrated. Paintings executed in brown are 
> sometimes referred to by the more specific term brunaille, and paintings 
> executed in green are sometimes called verdaille.[1]
> A grisaille may be executed for its own sake, as underpainting for an oil 
> painting (in preparation for glazing layers of colour over it), or as a 
> model for an engraver to work from. "Rubens and his school sometimes use 
> monochrome techniques in sketching compositions for engravers."[2] Full 
> colouring of a subject makes many more demands of an artist, and working 
> in grisaille was often chosen as being quicker and cheaper, although the 
> effect was sometimes deliberately chosen for aesthetic reasons. Grisaille 
> paintings resemble the drawings, normally in monochrome, that artists from 
> the Renaissance on were trained to produce; like drawings they can also 
> betray the hand of a less talented assistant more easily than a fully 
> coloured painting.
> 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grisaille>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> And I don't feel art has to reproduce nature.  
> 
> I offer a quote from Goethe, during a discussion on a Rubens landscape in 
> which two sources of light can be seen - 
> "The double lighting is definitely a violation - a violation of nature, if 
> you like.  But if it is a violation of nature, I add immediately that it 
> is superior to nature.
> I say that this is a master stroke, and proves that with genius art is not 
> entirely subject to the necessities imposed by nature but has laws of its 
> own."
> - From Eckerman's "Conversations" 1827.
> 
> Alan
> 
> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer
> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Photo Services
> (Retired)
> UPAA POY 1978
> amr3 at uwm.edu
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/
> 
> "All the technique in the world doesn't compensate
> for an inability to notice. " - Elliott Erwitt
> 
> 
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