Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/07/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]At least the Leica I had an optical viewfinder. The Sony has it as an option for $549. I wonder how many of those they will sell. My 35mm optical viewfinder was made in Russia. The Sony represents a niche market because there are so many other small digital cameras that can produce excellent photographs. I doubt that the photographers in the early 20th century had so many other Leica I-like cameras from which to choose. Back when Cosina was making rangefinders and lenses on a regular basis, I wished that they would come out with a fixed lens rangefinder camera with a 35, 40, or 50 mm lens. Why? Because nobody else was making one. That was a niche (and I wasn't being a detractor then either). Instead, they came out with a fixed lens folding, medium format camera for >$2,000. Another vacant niche filled (no detracting from me), but too pricey for me. I hope you aren't confusing me with Ken Rockwell. Jeffery On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > A compact quality camera capable of making amazing quality despite the > small > size of the camera might be called by some people a real niche kind of > thing. > > 1. wants one camera > 2. uses one lens > 3. needs a full size sensor > 4. Premium priced. > Is there an echo? It does should a little familiar harking back to around > 1914 when Barnack made his UR-Leica and convinced his boss Ernst Leitz to > come out with a finely made camera which shot a double sized area on a roll > of 35mm movie film. > " The small picture format of 24x36mm was achieved at that time by doubling > the 18 x 24 mm cinema format. " > Which they then came out with right when the war to end all wars was over. > "1925 The LEICA I with inbuilt lens is launched." > > I wonder if its market was then called by its detractors a niche? > Nischenmarkt? > I think it was called a Market. > Soon to be called A Mass Market Massenmarkt > > For Leica to tantalize us with the idea in shadow of a compact M and then > have it be an X (1.5 crop) with a big deal zoom is going to prove to be a > huge mistake. > If Leica has forgotten where its coming from is users have not. > because we'll be seeing the true Leica die hards who are into the whole > Leica mind set buying Sony Rx1's instead of dumbed down smaller than > necessary format X's. > > > On 7/1/13 2:02 PM, "Jefffery Smith" <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm not sure exactly which niche the Sony RX1R fills. I suppose it would >> be >> for the person who: >> wants one camera >> uses one lens >> needs a full size sensor >> doesn't mind an electronic viewfinder >> has $3,500 to spend on it >> >> That full size sensor had better be really, really good given the >> limitations >> in flexibility. >> >> HCB and Robert Capa fit into half of that niche, and I think that former >> LUG >> member GeeBee could live with it. >> >> Jeffery >> >> >> On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Paul Roark wrote: >> >>> I tested the model with the diffusion filter on it and was >>> disappointed. See >>> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/10593>> > 3 >>> and the comparisons to the M9 with 35mm Zeiss Biogon 2.8. I think >>> it'll take more than removal of the AA filter to make be try again. >>> >>> Paul >>> www.PaulRoark.com >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Jay Burleson <leica at jayburleson.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Not much different that an M3 with a Viso... ;-) >>>> >>>> Jay >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/30/2013 6:51 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Anybody notice how wonky this camera looks with the electronic >>>>> viewfinder >>>>> attached? >>>>> >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/lt22hzn >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> Jeffery L. Smith >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jay, >>>> >>>> Jay Burleson Gallery <http://jayburleson.com/leica/gallery/index.php/> >>>> "A photographer is simply someone who is >>>> looking for something that can't be found. >>>> The photograph is the record of that attempt." >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information