Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]A highlight is a terrible thing to waste. On 6/24/13 1:04 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > Agree. I expose the histogram the same for digital no matter the format: as > far to the right with no clipping unless intentional. This agrees with both > yours and Tina's statements. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 23, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > >> I had read that somehow the medium format digital guys do not expose for >> the >> highs. Cant see why. I certainly don't change my technique exposure wise >> when I shoot medium format film. So as a totally non experienced medium >> format digital guy I just have to bide my time as wait till I find out the >> mystery if there is one. >> >> >> On 6/23/13 6:28 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Agree. My default is to have EV set at -1/3. With some platforms you can >>> set >>> what pure white is on the in camera histogram. True for the new M240. >>> Instead >>> of clipping showing at 255/255/255 you can set it for 250 or 253 or >>> whatever. >>> >>> There was a big stink about ETTR (expose to the right) awhile ago >>> started by >>> Michael Riechman and Co. I understood the logic and math, but many >>> people >>> started exposing their histograms and highlights were blown. I remember >>> one >>> fellow who was showing prints with totally blown cloud centers. He >>> thought >>> his >>> images were fantastic because he had more information to work with >>> because >>> he >>> had really exposed to the right... >>> >>> So rarely clip is my working mantra: only with bright reflections >>> intentionally. Shadows have tons more to recover... >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Jun 22, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes and that's why if what I just clicked is something I really want to >>>> have >>>> come out I check the back of the camera to make sure the high tones are >>>> fully there. Check the histogram even. If not I set the exposure over >>>> ride >>>> down a bit more and click it again. >>>> If I click on something in which I totally don't care then maybe I wont >>>> check it as I'm walking away. And have regretted doing that. >>>> As why I'm I shooting it if I don't care? Best to trust our instincts >>>> I err on the side of under exposure for sure. >>>> Have great luck in bring up stuff out of the darks. Not the opposite.. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/22/13 11:52 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am not disagreeing with you, but with colour digital it is unusual to >>>>> have >>>>> all three colours blown out so some recovery is possible. A blown >>>>> highlight >>>>> on >>>>> a Monochrom is pure white with no tonal recovery, but I have not found >>>>> it >>>>> a >>>>> huge issue in practice. >>>>> >>>>> john >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >>>>>> Another thought which caught me on his thing is he says the camera is >>>>>> not >>>>>> tolerant of over exposure. >>>>>> I'm wondering what camera was he using which WAS tolerant of over >>>>>> exposure? >>>>>> As as far as I know all digital cameras are very similar to shooting >>>>>> slides. >>>>>> You don't over expose them. You place your high tones carefully and >>>>>> let >>>>>> the >>>>>> dark tones fall where they may. >>>>>> A statement like "this camera is not tolerant of over exposure" makes >>>>>> me >>>>>> thing this is not a guy who has gotten into digital really. >>>>>> I read him widely during the film era. I hope he's really making the >>>>>> transition. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/21/13 10:32 AM, "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Great review by Mason Resnick! I agree with almost everything he >>>>>>> says >>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tina >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Greg Rubenstein <gcr910 at >>>>>>> gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PDN finally got around to it, I guess. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.pdnonline.com/gear/Camera-Review-Leica- >>>>>> 8353.shtml?utm_sour >>>>>>>> ce=Silve >>>>>> rpop&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=41858219&utm_term=96312&ut >>>>>> m_conten >>>>>>>> t= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Greg Rubenstein >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> Photography >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photography >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/