Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]It's pragmatism. When one compares 1000 or 10000 images jpeg vs RAW out of camera and you see no difference sooner or later you forget the theory and go with the results...that is if you are capable of learning. I hope this will happen to me, as I'm still shooting RAW... Sent from my iPhone Steve Barbour On Jun 5, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: Its not an issue that "some day a sensor will come along which will allow me to skip raw" any more than "someday a pair of roller skates will come along with will allow me to sell my car". "this film is so good I'm going to sell my darkroom and just bring it to Walgreens!" not going to happen. There is no correlation between sensor quality and your basic workflo. Or the need to even have a workflo. A better sensor makes for better raw files to work from. End of story. If your settling for jpegs right out of the camera unless they really look bad to you all I can say is I strongly disagree with that approach. A non to minimal workflo approach. Especially as to the sophistication of gear you and many on the list use. It strikes me that if we are going to use high end rarified gear we should care as much about our images as the gear we walk around with and tout so highly. But on the lists I have long learned that there is no correlation between the money and care people spend on gear and the amount they care about their final images. Other than the correlation running to: the more you guys spend on rarefied gear the least you care about your final results. That right about sums it up. I'll take a beginner shooting with a cheap camera and lens who takes their time to Photoshop, not Lightroom their images any day. A kind who would never shoot a jpeg if his life depended on it. On 6/5/13 5:40 AM, "Philippe Amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> wrote: > > Le 5 juin 13 ? 11:16, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : > >> To say something to the effect that "the jpegs were so good we >> didn't need >> to shoot raw" indicates a total non understanding of the technology, >> ramifications, workflow on top of a seeming lack of care about the >> craft. > > > > Mark, I use the x10 quite a bit for convenience - from the start I > noticed the JPEGs were about the least worse (phuzzillogix TM) I could > squeeze out the camera. > I keep shooting RAW along with JPEGs because I think I still might > rescue some takes in LR which JPEG won't allow me to do. > In any case, I always end up converting RAWs to JPEGs ... > > Now I am no photographer, no printer, just a dilletante I know. > Yet there is SOME truth in what JPEG addicts state; > please believe my experience with a fuji sensor, > or try one? > ;-) > > Amiti?s > Philippe > > One sees clearly only with the heart. What is essential is invisible > to the eye. Antoine de Saint Exup?ry in Le Petit Prince. > NO ARCHIVE > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information