Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Herbert, No expert advice here, but I'm confident there is no legal issue. However, it seems to me to be an unusual situation (just one person, isolated, being photographed from an SUV), and I think asking why the picture was taken is a reasonable inquiry. Unlike Ted, I have mellowed somewhat as I age so I would say this situation perhaps doesn't warrant beating a confession out of the photographer, but I think most people would want to know why. Ken -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Herbert Kanner Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:42 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] a photographer sued This is really an interesting question. The garden in front of the house is fully visible from the street. Doesn't that mean there is no expectation of privacy? Thus, is that different from photographing in a public place, where both the subject and photographer are in said place? I'm not questioning the ethical or moral aspect, just the legal one. Herbert Kanner kanner at acm.org 650-326-8204 Question authority and the authorities will question you. On May 29, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: > Hi, Ted > > I was thinking of responding to Adam with the same line of thought, > but as usual you put it more succinctly and eloquently than I could. > My wife was working in a flower bed in the front of our house the > other day, and looked up to notice someone photographing her from a > black Tahoe. I called our local PD, and after observing that a black > Tahoe narrowed it down to a few thousand suspects, the dispatcher did > have some officers drive around looking for similar behavior. Never knew what it was about, of course. > > Hope all is well there, > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > tedgrant at shaw.ca > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:35 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] a photographer sued > > HELLO ADAM IN ANSWER: > WITH IN MY 5 MINUTE COMPUTER TIME ALLOTMENT FOR EACH DAY: > > "HERE HERE ADAM AND AFTER YOU FINISH THE SPRAY CAN EFFECT. YOU HOLD > HIM/HER FOR ME WHILE I KICK ASS FOR A BLOCK OR TWO ALONG THE STREET." > > THEN SMASH EVERY BIT OF EQUIPMENT HE/SHE OWNS! > > THE PRIVACY OF OUR HOME IS SACRED, CERTAINLY IN THE USA & CANADA. I > DON'T CARE WHAT THEY RESPECT IN ANY OTHER COUNTRIES........... HERE? > BY GOD DON'T POINT A CAMERA AT ME THROUGH A WINDOW OF MY HOME OR YOU > WILL MOST CERTAINLY WEAR THE CAMERA AND LENS WHERE IT REALLY REALLY > HURTS! AND THE SUN DON'T SHINE!!!!!!!!! > > GOOD THAT FEELS BETTER!!! AND ALL WITH IN THE 5 MINUTE ALLOTMENT. ;-) > > CHEERS, > Dr. ted > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Bridge" <abridge at mac.com> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Leica] a photographer sued > > >> On May 28, 2013, at 8:57 AM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> >> wrote: >> >>> If "privacy" were my "first concern" - my first response would be to >>> acquire appropriate window shading. >> >> Really? You want to live in a cave do you? >> >> If this were about recorded conversations, or sounds, would we be >> having this discussion at all?? If the final object were a CD of >> conversations recorded by a laser bounced off a window I suspect we'd >> think a line was crossed. >> >> But, no, it's a photographer - the pure of heart. Can't possibly be >> something wrong photographing through the window of their HOME. >> There's a long history in the US, at least, that a home has special >> significance. If > >> someone, say you, were standing on the sidewalk shooting through my >> window > >> with a long lens you might be having a conversation with my local >> police force very very soon. Or you'd meet Mr Spray Can of black >> paint which I wouldn't hesitate to use. >> >> In crowded urban areas there should be profound resistance to these >> sorts of practices. Privacy is what enables us to live together. We >> don't have to live behind blinds because some things simply should not be done. >> >> I hope the suit goes forward and kicks serious ass in court. Maybe >> next time photographer and publisher will think a little bit before >> becoming peeping toms. >> >> Adam >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information