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Subject: [Leica] Computer Question
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 07:13:24 +1000
References: <CA+yJO1BZ14ZnOh1RKb3DH7tyHEZ0XxBLq+q8dzg3WQn5iGLv7Q@mail.gmail.com> <060901ce5a47$68e2b970$3aa82c50$@verizon.net> <CAE3QcF4LVUNjW45v5cnnqcVHhR+gn83RbbecZK2=wwZ4L+qS6A@mail.gmail.com> <CA+yJO1D-71AeEh7VmdrAmVhUArOE2E6P9jC7+urHB=bebaQ7oQ@mail.gmail.com>

You are very welcome Tina. I also recommend Jeremy's site for the wealth of
free public information on printing (and all of the associated topics),This
is his primary business.


*Breathe in, breathe out, move on* -- Jimmy Buffett

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 27 May 2013 07:01, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:

> Thanks, Geoff.  That's very helpful. I'm printing out the article.
>
> Tina
>
>
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Frank that is not all correct. Information written to an SSD does not
> > disappear when you power off. They certainly can be used as swap drives
> > though, They certainly do read and write faster. That is what they are
> for.
> > Perhaps you are referring to using a USB flash drive as a RAM addition
> for
> > the ready boost function in Windows?
> >
> > Tina in simple terms a Solid State Drive (SSD) is effectively a much
> faster
> > to access version of your standard hard drive. They are now commonly used
> > by enthusiasts especially instead of a traditional type as the main or at
> > least first drive in your computer.For example the current fast and light
> > laptops called ultrabooks typically have only an SSD.
> > In an enthusiast photo computer you can use multiple drives, one for your
> > operating system, another for the swap files of Windows or the camera raw
> > cache for,Photoshop and Lightroom etc another perhaps for bulk storage.
> > SSDs still cost much more per Gigabyte than traditional hard drives
> though.
> >
> > It really depends on how comfortable you are inside your computer. I
> would
> > suggest for most people it is best to have professional help although
> just
> > adding an SSD and setting the camera raw cache to it is not too
> difficult.
> > The drive is usually put in an adapter that lets you put it in a spare
> bay
> > in your case and connected with a single data cable and a power cable. In
> > Ps and Lr preferences you then point to the new drive instead of the
> > default that was created in your main drive.
> > You may want to review your whole system though. To give you some ideas
> > what is possible, here is an article by a local professional expert.
> There
> > is a lot of other useful information on his site too. Be warned this
> > article is abut a real enthusiast level computer specifically for hard
> core
> > image professionals ;-)
> > <
> >
> >
> http://www.imagescience.com.au/kb/questions/141/Build%20a%20powerful%20PC%20for%20Photoshop%20and%20other%20imaging%20applications
> > >
> >
> >
> > *Breathe in, breathe out, move on* -- Jimmy Buffett
> >
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
> > On 27 May 2013 05:29, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I reviewed the specs and manual that you got with the drive.....
> > >
> > > First,, let me ask you what about your computer is "slow"?  Opening
> > files?
> > > Saving files? LR4 or PS (whatever) version is slow to act upon
> commands?
> > > Other?
> > >
> > > Another way to ask that question is to ask you what did you expect this
> > > product to do for you?  ( same possible answers as above)
> > >
> > > The item you bought is a SSD, Solid State drive.  Its purpose is to
> speed
> > > up
> > > the OS, speed up frequently used files, etc.  It replaces the
> mechanical
> > > HDD
> > > with a solid state one.. My understanding ( and I could be wrong) is
> that
> > > upon starting up the computer, the CPU takes files from your regular
> old
> > > boot HDD, and copies them over to the SSD.  Then, when needed, the CPU
> > > accesses the files not from the mechanical HDD, but rather this SSD.
> > > Significantly shorter delays, significantly faster speeds of those
> files
> > on
> > > the SSD.
> > >
> > > Having said that, the SSD does NOT save any files permanently.  Shut
> off
> > > power, and it goes blank.  Nada.  Nothing. Saving or accessing files
> will
> > > be
> > > as slow as before.  They will be saved on the mechanical HDD.
> > >
> > > What I would say is that the SSD will accelerate the CPU operations
> that
> > > are
> > > cached, including applications like ( and I say MAYBE here) LR4 or PS
> > > whatever, and OS, but ( in your specific case) also including those
> parts
> > > of
> > > a  file that are cached during image processing.
> > >
> > > It will NOT speed up the storage of files.  Either write or read.
> > >
> > > Does this help you to understand what you bought?
> > >
> > > Frank Filippone
> > > Red735i at verizon.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LI7CTY/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UT
> > > F8&psc=1
> > >
> > > I thought it would be an external drive that I could hook up to USB but
> > > it's
> > > not!  There are evidently ways to install it in a drive bay, which I do
> > > have.  What do I need to do that?  Is there any way to use it as an
> > > external
> > > hard drive or would that defeat the purpose?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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In reply to: Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Computer Question)
Message from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] Computer Question)
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Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Computer Question)