Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]F*CK YOU NATHAN. JUST F*CK YOU On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Nathan Wajsman <nathan at frozenlight.eu>wrote: > Oh, so Winogrand was a racist after all then? > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > *http://www.frozenlight.eu* > *http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu* > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: > *http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws*<http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws> > Blog: *http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog> > * > > YNWA > > > > > > > > > > On May 10, 2013, at 8:10 PM, Richard Man wrote: > > I am sure most of you are sick of this, I am tilting at the windmills. > > But here's another example close to (my) home: as you may know, in Silicon > Valley, a lot of tech workers are Chinese and Indians. > > Also a small number of firms are founded by Chinese and Indians. > > And of course we know some of the biggest firms, in China, Taiwan, India > are owned by Chinese and Indians. > > So guess how many Chinese and Indians executives or board of directors are > there in Tech firm not founded by Chinese or Indians. > > > > > If your guess is less than the number of your fingers in your hands, you > are correct. > > Please Nathan, Mr. Rabiner, and Lew, explain it to me how this happens. > Thank you. > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Richard Man <richard at > richardmanphoto.com>wrote: > >> BTW, for examples of color blindness, look no further than Hollywood >> movies. USA is 10% Asian-Americans, ~20% Latino and climbing, and almost >> 20% African Americans also - but you cannot tell that from the movies. Are >> they all racists. No, I wouldn't say that. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Richard Man <richard at >> richardmanphoto.com >> >wrote: >> >> > As I said before, I am wondering if there is a case of color blindness, >> > and this is only in the context of someone who photographs at least 2-5 >> > rolls everyday in NY / LA on average. >> > >> > I might very well be wrong in the observation, but isn't it interesting >> > that people jumped onto the "I am accusing a great man for being >> racist" or >> > that "other artists did not paint Asians" either. >> > >> > No one has actually said, gee, no, Winogrand does not have a case of >> color >> > blindness, you are just making a mountain out of molehill. I'd accept >> that, >> > but no, we have Mr. Rabiner accusing me, and Douglas and you jumping on >> the >> > bandwagon.... >> > On May 9, 2013 6:15 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Richard, you are being a bit disingenuous here. If you were only >> "making >> >> an observation", then might I ask why you felt that this particular >> >> observation was relevant? I have no idea if Winogrand was a racist or >> not, >> >> but clearly your "observation" is only relevant in that context. So >> don't >> >> pretend that there was no deeper meaning behind your "observation". >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Nathan >> >> >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> >> Alicante, Spain >> >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> >> YNWA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 9, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Richard Man wrote: >> >> >> >> > Mark, did you read everything I write? I made an observation. >> Viewers of >> >> > his exhibit can judge for themselves about my observation, which once >> >> again >> >> > is "few photos in his exhibit have people of colors, and exactly one >> >> Asian >> >> > that we can find." I am not accusing him of anything. Anyone can >> >> confirm or >> >> > refute my observation. The exhibit is still open and you can purchase >> >> the >> >> > book for $50. >> >> > >> >> > May be it;s the curator and has billions of photos of African >> American >> >> in >> >> > his vast quantity of negatives, but this exhibit does not show it. >> >> > >> >> > You are making accusation, I am not. Please have some restrain that >> you >> >> > speak of. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at >> >> > rabinergroup.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Have you seen his Rolodex? >> >> >> Because it really appears you are accusing Garry Winogrand of >> racism. >> >> >> And you don't know much about him. >> >> >> The idea that he'd have any problem with having people of color in >> his >> >> >> frame >> >> >> is patently absurd. >> >> >> When one makes slights against a someone's personal integrity some >> >> >> restraint >> >> >> in in order. Even if that person is not a towering figure of a >> >> particular >> >> >> type. In this case a photographer who dedicated his life to capture >> the >> >> >> world around him and who did it with some success. >> >> >> Is this a controversy? >> >> >> Has anyone in the history of the world ever said anything about the >> >> color >> >> >> of >> >> >> the people the great Garry Winogrand photographed? OF COURSE NOT. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leica Users Group. >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > > > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto