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Subject: [Leica] Is Eggleston in the right? What is the meaning of "limited edition"?
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:26:38 -0700
References: <E377D2BD-1A9B-4363-89F8-BB2937889A4F@mac.com> <CD8B8753.7E89%mark@rabinergroup.com>

The AP "scam" is when a photographer "runs out" of limited edition, and
then continues to make "Artist Proof" after the fact so they can continue
to sell them. Not very ethical at best if they are limited edition and if
the proof really is every other way the same as the earlier limited prints.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> The thing says they often say  "AP" on them.
> Are for the  "personal use" of the artist.
> But end up getting sold for more money than the regular edition.
> Its been going on for century's so its really not a scam. But a known and
> accepted way of doing the business of art.
>
>
> On 4/9/13 7:32 PM, "Lottermoser George" <imagist3 at mac.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Apr 9, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
> >
> >> We haven't gotten to the other piece of the limited edition scam: The
> >> Artist's proof. I've seen instances where after a limited edition is
> sold
> >> out, a flood of AP's appears. Seems like another way to get more blood
> from
> >> the turnip.
> >
> > Generally, in the case of printmakers with integrity,
> > The Artist's Proofs are made first - leading up to the edition -
> > used to determine how an edition may be printed.
> >
> > I've printed very few "Editions."
> > Most all of my prints are "Artist's Proofs"
> > and numbered as such with roman numerals.
> >
> > It would be fairly normal, if a "Limited Edition" were to sell out
> > for a printmaker to also make available "Artist's Proofs"
> > which he or she considers worthy of their name.
> >
> > Whether it's a "Scam" or not really depends on the integrity of the
> > printmaker.
> >
> > Regards,
> > George Lottermoser
> > george at imagist.com
> > http://www.imagist.com
> > http://www.imagist.com/blog
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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