Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/03/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thank you for the info and analysis Lluis. I think you are right. The new Apo generation is certainly an improvement when used wide open. But is it worth paying double for one more stop? Not for me. In some cases I take a small or heavy tripod. It's astonishing what you can do at night with an M-9 and a tripod. Regards Cedric 2013/3/22 Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>: > Dear Cedric, > > Thank you, your details are very interesting, some years ago (film times) > I've compared at different f stops with the camera in a tripod both: > Summilux 35 pre asph and Summicron 35 IV, in B&W and in color. IMO the > Summilux set at infinity in low light conditions and wide open manages > better the flare, at f2 the Summicron is sharper, other differences up to > this are in the toning scale reproduction. I color the rendition of the > Summilux was smoother than the Summicron, this one produces more contrated > colors. When I've purchased my Summicron IV in 1997, the Dealer (Robert > White) that the new ASPH was appeared, the price difference was not the > matter to decide, I've prefered take the "old" one and I have no > complaints. > > The new Summilux 35 Asph is a superb lens, perfect! very expensive and > bigger than my old Lux, I'm very happy with it! > > Cheers > Lluis > > > > > El 22/03/2013, a las 12:51, Cedric Agie escribi?: > >> Dear Lluis, >> >> Thank you verry much for your interesting informations and personnal >> remarks. Comments from a photographer who has a good experience in the >> field is most important to me. Over the years I had several Summilux's >> 35mm M to test but was not alway satisfied with the results, having a >> verry good Summicron 35mm M (made about 1972-1973) and a Summaron 35 >> f:2.8 M. I know these 2 well because I enlarged a lot of pictures in >> B&W and color myself up to format 30X40 cm with both my Focomat IC and >> IIC. In my opinion both lenses are equal at the same openings, except >> f/2 of course. >> >> When I made this remark to a good old friend at Leitz Wetzlar at the >> time he smiled largely and agreed discreetly. >> >> So recently I received this Sumilux 35mm M I mentionned. I know this >> lens perfectly because my friend took most of the 35 mm pictures of ou >> marriage with it. >> I personally teached him color photography and chemistry in his >> personnal darkroom. I never saw any difference with my own Summicron, >> be it in B&W or color. >> He showed me several pictures taken with this lens with Kodachrome in >> low light in an obscure cathedral. Simply razor sharp so to say. I >> made no mistake in buying this lens. >> >> When he bought himself the latest Apo Summilux 35mm M he was so >> enthousiastic with the results he gave me his own Summilux 35mm M. I >> will never regret it. First results with my M-9 look excellent both in >> B&W and color. >> >> Thank you again and kind regards, >> >> Cedric >> >> >> 2013/3/21 Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>: >>> Hi Cedric, >>> >>> According to the S/N my lens was made in 1983. I like very much this >>> lens, with film (B&W) it gave me very rich range of grey with very nice >>> smooth contrast, at f 1.4 is not a very sharp and contrasted lens, but >>> for me it does his job, I like too that it is very small. Compared with >>> the Summicron 35 (IV) this one is more sharp and contrasted, it is also >>> a lens I like very much. With the M8 the Lux 35 perform particularly >>> well, it is the usual lens I have always attached. I'm not a technical >>> man in the sense that I don't take care about many technical concepts, >>> what I'm interested is how the lens shows the atmosphere I like in my >>> pictures. If I compare it with the Summilux 50 (year 1967) the 50 is >>> better wide open or at high apertures, it is more "crispy". >>> >>> Probably every one of us has different motivations to find with a lens, >>> for my own use I'm very happy with my older lenses >>> >>> Thanks for looking ad for your kind comment! >>> >>> Cheers >>> Lluis >>> >>> >>> El 21/03/2013, a las 11:20, Cedric Agie escribi?: >>> >>>> I like your color and B&W pictures Lluis. I noticed you used a pre >>>> Asph Summi 35 M wide open. >>>> Could you tell me when it was made (probably according to its serial >>>> n?)? >>>> I have one myself. It's one of the first that is in pristine condition >>>> and that gives perfect pictures. >>>> And since differend series were made in the pre Asph era I'm much >>>> interested by the results you got and the experience you have with it. >>>> According to a good Leica relation I heard not all Summis were always >>>> equal. Older Pros gladly accepted the Summi 35 M but didn't really >>>> trust the one in 50mm. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Cedric >>>> >>>> 013/3/21 Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>: >>>>> Thank you Jim, I think so but on these cases I wait sometime to decide >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Lluis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> El 21/03/2013, a las 00:44, Jim Nichols escribi?: >>>>> >>>>>> Lluis, >>>>>> >>>>>> Nice work. I have to pick the color image in this case. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lluis Ripoll" <lluisripollquerol >>>>>> at gmail.com> >>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 5:43 PM >>>>>> Subject: [Leica] From today >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First all my apologies to different messages about Barcelona, we >>>>>>> have at home our grandchildren, this is a really joy, but also it is >>>>>>> difficult have free time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shoot today, initially I was sure about the color version, once I've >>>>>>> do the conversion to B&W I like both, for this reason I share both. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Color >>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/L1030560.jpg.html> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> B&W (conversion with Silver Efex Pro 2) >>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/L1030560BN.jpg.html> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Leica M8, Summilux 35 pre asph Wide Open >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saludos cordiales >>>>>>> Lluis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information