Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/02/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]It would seem that focusing is better there, but still, there is no real confirmation until downloading. Suppose I want a subject's eye in focus, not the top of their ear? Like the Contax, I can only hope for the best. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Rabiner Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:58 AM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] any Sony RX 1 users You could read the reviews and see if you're finding focusing issues. I have and have not found that. And I think Sony has made one or two cameras in the past years and I think they've figured out the focusing thing by now. I'm guessing the camera just works. You point it at something click the clicker and it takes a picture. That's what the three reviews seem to indicate. Google it. On 2/13/13 12:35 PM, "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote: > So this the same thing as my Contax G2 that I sold years ago. It was my > most loved and hated camera: fantastic lenses, I mean the best lenses I > have > ever owned in any format or film size. Totally unreliable AF, where the AF > point was hard to locate. Guesss I'm out there, too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: FRANK DERNIE > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:55 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] any Sony RX 1 users > > No viewfinder, autofocus impossible to judge when using an add-on optical > viewfinder (I would be)? > Completely useless to me, however good the results in a review taking test > charts. > Shan't be getting one. > Frank D. > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2013, 4:40 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] any Sony RX 1 users >> >> Mark, >> I agree. We will have to keep looking for revues! That should clear the >> problem up without a doubt! I presume a rave revue is a revue with drugs >> and a Sony RX-1? (-: >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 13-Feb-2013, at 8:53 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >> >>> Pauls opinion is of course to be taken seriously. >>> It is of course. One opinion >>> One can easily check out other revues which are out. >>> None of them are bad. I read or two or three long others. >>> the luminous landscape one is very intensive. And super good. >>> In a month there will be a dozen. We'll see if any of them are bad. >>> But if one opinion decides the issue for you; you'll not be interested >>> in >>> any of them. >>> I think we'll be seeing people out using this camera. And we'll be >>> seeing >>> their work. So it won't be an issue of complied rave revues. >>> >>> >>> On 2/12/13 8:24 PM, "Richard Man" <richard at imagecraft.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, and if we can trust anyone, it would be Paul's. >>>> On Feb 12, 2013 5:06 PM, "Marty Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> But the lens isn't very good, which is particularly problematic in a >>>>> fixed lens camera. >>>>> >>>>> Marty >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at >>>>> rabinergroup.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> All this talk about flash this and flash that. >>>>>> This is a full frame camera which can be used easily at iso 64,000 >>>>>> and >>>>>> beyond just like a 3 pound full frame DSLR flagship camera can be. >>>>>> But >>>>> can >>>>>> go in your pocket. >>>>>> And just like a Rollei 35. Which few used with flash. >>>>>> >>>>>> Its the beginning of full frame compact options for those who want >>>>>> the >>>>>> quality that full frame brings you and are willing to pay a bit extra >>>>>> for >>>>>> it. >>>>>> They 're not going to have to pay THAT much for it as this is also >>>>> obviously >>>>>> a premium placed camera. The ostentatious lens and ultra solid build >>>>> makes >>>>>> it so. Plenty of full frame compact options will be had soon made of >>>>>> more >>>>>> traditional plastic and with a safe mindless zoom designed to appeal >>>>>> to >>>>> the >>>>>> masses. It won't really cost this much to have full frame fit in your >>>>>> pocket. >>>>>> It will be under two grand not under three. USD. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sony is a company I trust more than any other electronics company. >>>>>> They seldom blow it. If that's the case now its a darned shame but I >>>>> don't >>>>>> think its going to slow up the reality of a full frame compact >>>>>> market. >>>>>> >>>>>> To me it makes the full frame compact solution really serious. >>>>>> Instead >>>>>> of >>>>>> just pretending to me. A full frame compact camera would really be a >>>>> serious >>>>>> picture taking solution to be embraced by top pros and very serious >>>>>> amateurs. The 1.5 crop and 2x crop would like to be but they are not. >>>>>> We are all just too familiar with what a full frame digital sensor >>>>>> can >>>>> bring >>>>>> to our work. And many of us are willing to drag one around to get >>>>>> that. >>>>> But >>>>>> when its compact that's a dream come true. When its compact we're >>>>>> talking >>>>>> Barnack. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/12/13 3:58 PM, "John Owlett" <owl at postmaster.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday 11 February 2013, at 18:06 PST, Paul Roark wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had the opportunity to test a Sony RX1 briefly. I sent it back >>>>>>>> due >>>>>>>> to defects, but it is an interesting camera and has a few >>>>>>>> attributes >>>>>>>> that are an exciting glimpse of the future. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ... snip ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, interesting, but not ready for prime time for me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When the Sony DSC-RX1 was first mentioned on the LUG, several people >>>>>>> expressed doubts as to whether it would actually be bought to take >>>>>>> pictures. My reaction was, "It might be", so I went across to >>>>>>> Bournemouth to take a close look at one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The RX1 is basically a solidly built camera body with a 24.3 >>>>>>> megapixel >>>>>>> sensor and a good 35mm f/2 lens. What Sony seems to be trying to do >>>>>>> is to offer picture quality as good as an M-240 + Summicron, with >>>>>>> build quality as good as an M-240 + Summicron ... without the >>>>>>> flexibility of a system camera ... but at less than half the weight >>>>>>> and less than half the price. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And if Sony can achieve that, why not? After all, Rolleiflex sold >>>>>>> about two million miniature Rollei 35 film cameras, and still makes >>>>>>> an occasional batch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As a build-quality neurotic, but not a camera engineer, I felt that >>>>>>> the RX1 was as solidly built as the Nikon F3/T I had with me; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... but ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the RX1 has no integral viewfinder. There is an EVF you can put in >>>>>>> the hot shoe, but then you cannot fit a separate flash unit there. >>>>>>> There is a compact-camera-style pop-up flash, but of course that >>>>>>> won't bounce. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There apppears to be no way to use an EVF and a separate flash unit >>>>>>> at the same time, without setting up a slave flash to be triggered >>>>>>> by the pop-up unit. Which is complication too far for my ideal of >>>>>>> a walkabout camera. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, while I would agree with Paul that it is "an exciting glimpse >>>>>>> of the future", I would also agree that it is "not ready for prime >>>>>>> time for me." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Later, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dr Owl >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>>> John Owlett, Southampton, UK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>>> Photography >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> Photography >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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