Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/01/15

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Subject: [Leica] Untitled
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:41:51 +0100
References: <CD1A8CE4.3867%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Le 15 janv. 13 ? 10:34, Mark Rabiner a ?crit :

> The writing has been on the wall for a long time that the market for a
> manual focus SLR system was not there.

> Putting money into it was like
> throwing money right out the window. Leica is not here to fulfill the
> personal whims of the handful of people still interested in a manual  
> focus
> SLR or DSLR system. Leica is there to stay in business and make  
> money . The
> days of throwing money out the window are over. Companies have to make
> products which sell.
> The S system is going to sell. And its going to help put Leica back  
> in a
> very strong position. A position of the camera company making the best
> camera.  And the S is in many ways the best camera for many  
> applications.
> Things people used use a Hasselblad for. And still do.  But not for  
> long. I
> think the Digital Leica M and Monochrom will also thought of as "best
> cameras" for plenty of applications not the same applications as the S
> system.
> Its not about you Marc. Its about a company that's back in the black  
> and
> doing well very much because its not listening to this kind of  
> nonsense from
> a small handful of loud egocentric crackpots..... Maintaining camera  
> systems
> which just don't sell.
>


Well they know how to design and manufacture AF IOS D-varios, I have  
one.
R users wanted to live in the present day.
Leica dropped us. Period.
Ph


>
> On 1/15/13 3:48 AM, "Marc Dufour" <foto at marcdufour.net> wrote:
>
>> Even with just half a brain, it's easy to verify Leica has  
>> disregarded
>> thousands of long time R lenses users and lovers.
>> It was much more than a small but solid market, and still  
>> appreciates these
>> lenses, but doesn't care the present company, nor its
>> future
>>
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: lug-bounces+foto=marcdufour.net at leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+foto=marcdufour.net at leica-users.org] En nombre  
>> de Mark
>> Rabiner
>> Enviado el: martes, 15 de enero de 2013 5:11
>> Para: Leica Users Group
>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Untitled
>>
>> I don't think Leica has destroyed anything or lost anything it was  
>> obvious to
>> anybody with half a brain that the transition to
>> digital for a company like Leica was not going to be smooth. Its  
>> first outs
>> did not have the luck of the Irish behind them it could
>> have gone better but it just didn't.  I think with the introduction  
>> of the
>> Digital M and Monochrom Leica is solidly back on track
>> and will win back its small but solid market slice just like it had  
>> in the
>> 1980's and 90's.
>> The Leica name is as  str0ng as ever (brand) they are making money  
>> hand over
>> fist making cameras as fast as they can and doing what
>> appears to be solid Research and development. Then years ago they  
>> were being
>> spoken of in the past tense. I'm looking forward to
>> getting by M glass back going in the very near future  and I doubt  
>> I'm the
>> only one in that situation.
>>
>> By the way to those who complain about how new lenses have gone  
>> through the
>> roof. You can still buy used Leica glass from the 90's,
>> 80's, 70's, 60's, 40's maybe even 30's with range of price points  
>> matching up
>> with a range of quality levels.
>>
>>
>> On 1/13/13 9:45 AM, "Marc Dufour" <foto at marcdufour.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Leica has destroyed in few years a well-deserved prestige and lost  
>>> the
>>> confidence of the most demanding photographers.
>>> Almost a century of the best craftsmanship just wasted... by stupid
>>> businessmen. Time to recover other values?
>>>
>>> Merci pour ton commentaire!
>>> Et amiti?s,
>>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Photography
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>>
>>
>>
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