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Subject: [Leica] LR 4 Alternatives anyone
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 15:45:01 -0800
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eb*y is your friend...


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at 
summaventures.com>wrote:

> Yup, but Adobe won't sell LR3.
>
> Peter
>
> PS the h/w is probably five or six years old.
>
> On 07/01/2013 18:24, Richard Man wrote:
> > More to the point, any machine older than that can run XP and LR2 or LR3.
> > Win7 and Win8 will probably those features as are most of the latest
> > software releases.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Richard Man <
> richard at richardmanphoto.com>wrote:
> >
> >> But my point is, all recent CPU since 4-5 years ago should support PAE,
> NX
> >> and SSE2.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:53 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> So why do you need Windows 8?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>> Alicante, Spain
> >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >>> http://www.greatpix.eu
> >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sign my petition against the gun lobby:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/include-nra-list-terrorist-organizations-group-actively-promotes-killing-us-civilians/GgyPdyy4
> >>>
> >>> YNWA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Peter Dzwig wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Physical Address Extension (PAE), NX processor bit (NX), and
> Streaming
> >>> SIMD
> >>>> Extensions 2 (SSE2) refer to features of the processor. PAE enables
> >>> 32-bit
> >>>> processors to access more than 4 GB of physical memory on capable
> >>> versions of
> >>>> Windows and is a prerequisite for NX. NX allows the processor to help
> >>> guard the
> >>>> PC from attacks by malicious software. SSE2 (a standard on processors
> >>> for a long
> >>>> time) is an instruction set that is increasingly used by third-party
> >>> apps and
> >>>> drivers. For Windows 8, for your malware defense features to work
> >>> reliably we
> >>>> require that your processor support NX. To enhance the reliability of
> >>>> third-party apps and drivers running in Windows 8, SSE2 is also
> >>> required. If
> >>>> your PC doesn't support PAE, NX, and SSE2 you won?t be able to install
> >>> Windows
> >>>> 8...."
> >>>>
> >>>> - Nicrosoft
> >>>>
> >>>> On 07/01/2013 00:25, Richard Man wrote:
> >>>>> what CPU do you have? PAE probably refers to 64-bit x64 CPU. Any
> Intel
> >>> PC
> >>>>> made in the last 4-5 years have that. NX is no execution or
> something?
> >>> So
> >>>>> same thing, any 4-5 year old CPU should have that. SSE2 is the same,
> >>> it's
> >>>>> the multimedia SIMD extension that has existed since a number of
> years
> >>> now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Peter Dzwig <
> pdzwig at summaventures.com
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> FWIW.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> LR4 comes up with the need to have PAE (Physical address Extension)
> >>> and NX
> >>>>>> bit
> >>>>>> available to it plus something SSE2. I have the former and the
> latter
> >>> but
> >>>>>> don't
> >>>>>> have NX on my chipset so..... and having spent GBP90 on s/w I don't
> >>> want to
> >>>>>> spend GBP300 - 400 for a new server.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 06/01/2013 22:51, Richard Man wrote:
> >>>>>>> ?? LR4 runs fine on most Windows PC? Not sure about problem
> >>> descriptions?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It may have problems with Windows 8, but that would probably just
> be
> >>> W8
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> hopefully will be fixed by Microsquish.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Peter Dzwig <
> >>> pdzwig at summaventures.com
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I bought LR4 to go with my XPro 1 only to find that I can only run
> >>> LR4
> >>>>>>>> over W8
> >>>>>>>> or a version of Windows supported by a chip having certain
> >>> properties
> >>>>>>>> implemented by Intel (PAE, NX, etc.)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Since I don' want to buy a new computer as well does anyone have
> any
> >>>>>>>> recommendations for an alternative to LR4 that can read RAW from
> an
> >>>>>> XPRO-1?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Currently I normally run PSE over XP which is fine for most apps.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> PS I knew that film was cheaper!!
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ===========================================================
> >>>>>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group.
> >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
> >>> information
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ===========================================================
> >>>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> Leica Users Group.
> >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
> information
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> ===========================================================
> >>>> Dr Peter Dzwig
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Leica Users Group.
> >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Leica Users Group.
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> ===========================================================
> Dr Peter Dzwig
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>



-- 
// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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