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Subject: [Leica] a "pro-hobbyist" evaluates an M9 . . . ICK
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 20:36:51 -0800
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Hi Paul,

I started with a Leaf Aptus 22 on my Hassy system (Flexbody and a whole 
bunch of lenses acquired over many years). 
Some of the images:
http://www.rgaphoto.com/sierras/content/RGA_Photo__000891MASTER_large.html
http://www.rgaphoto.com/sierras/content/Yosemite_2011-CF055757BW_Master2_large.html
http://www.rgaphoto.com/coastal/content/L_000513_MASTER_large.html
http://www.rgaphoto.com/coastal/content/L_000599_MASTER_large.html

When I bought the Alpa, I went to a PhaseOne P45+. it allows for up to one 
hour exposures, which I never used. Folks started clamor ing for this 
ability (not available in any Phase backs since), so I traded it up for a 
60mp back.
 
The 80mp Phase has been problematic for very WA lenses and is overkill IMO.

A used P65+ runs about $26k. I've never seen a used IQ180 (80mp).  The Leaf 
Aptus 22 or Phase One 22+ are still amazing products.

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bob,
> 
>> For about $17,000, you can have an Alpa and 22MP (full frame) back and 
>> 70mm
>> Rodenstock lens with 5deg of tilt. ...
> 
> Is your back a 22 MP back?  How much does the 80 MP back add to the cost?
> 
> I must say, my opinion of the Apo Rodagons I have for enlarging and
> copying is right up there with my best Leica & Zeiss optics.
> 
> To be honest, what I think I'd like more is a 36 MP Leica M cmos (if
> their technology delivers the goods).  Whether a 24 MP cmos done right
> will temp me to part with the money is an open question.  Right now, I
> don't see any machine that can match (performance/weight plus ease and
> speed of operation) what I have (M9) for the types of things I do.
> The MM is amazing for many uses, but selecting by color range (not
> gray level range) has become too important to give up.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
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