Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]My little sisters still live in New Mexico. One is 17, the other is 24. They are both social and hang out at the usual social gatherings that young people do. Except in New Mexico there is at least one firearm in almost every house, especially out on the eastern plains which is ranching country. For the most part everyone is very responsible with firearms but there are always the times when kids will get a bit crazy and go out shooting into a hillshide or at bottles on fenceposts during a party. So, a few years ago I talked with my dad and we agreed that we can't stop teenage behavior but we can teach my youngest siblings to be responsible with firearms if they were ever in a social situation and one came out of the cabinet. We took them shooting and taught them the manual of arms for shotguns, bolt action rifles, revolvers and semi-automatic handguns. They don't want anything to do with firearms but we stressed that safety was the first thing and that they had the responsibility to learn and know how to be really safe around firearms. So now they know how to shoot well, handle small arms, store them, clean them, and no one has been hurt in the process of educating them. Since then, a hammer has proven to be quite a bit more dangerous to myself and my dad as we've both smashed fingers here and there. Phil Forrest On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 11:58:57 -0800 "jon.streeter" <jon.streeter at cox.net> wrote: > Here's where everybody, including, be it noted, the much and wrongly > villified members of the NRA (which mostly is heard about rather than > heard from): this school shooting is a tragedy. I for one cannot > bear to think about it in terms of my own children. Where we disagree > is in what action to take. Criminals don't pay any attention to the > law. Restricting guns, or gun ownership, or taxing ammo will simply > create a new market for organized crime. Look at the worldwide war > on drugs. The only people directly affected by laws are the > law-abiding. > > Our schools are gun-free zones and thus are magnets for the kind of > person bent on shooting defenseless children. > > How about armed security guards at schools? We have them at the > entrances to our children's court and in every courtrooom. Are guns > around children such a horrible idea that we should disarm our > security guards and bailiffs? > > Remember the Fort Hood shooting? Clinton had ordered that military > personnel on a military installation must be disarmed. Look what a > message that sent. Are we outraged and saddened over that tragedy? > I am. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "FRANK DERNIE" <frank.dernie at btinternet.com> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: [Leica] [Lexica] Gun control > Date: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 8:32 am > > > Maybe the only solution is to restrict the availability of ammo. $100 > dollar tax on every shell case? That may bypass gun possesion laws, > you can have as many guns as you like but only 3 bullets for self > defence? > > The problem is that there are so many guns around no control has a > snowballs hope in hell of working, even if the NRA changed its mind. > As the saying goes, you have made your bed, now you have to lie in it. > > It is heartbreaking to think of all those poor bereaved parents. I > have no idea how they can cope with such a loss. I just can not > imagine how I would have felt if this happened to my children or > grandchildren. And I have tried. > > Devastating. > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Dennis Kushner <dennis.leicam6 at gmail.com> > >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >Sent: Saturday, 15 December 2012, 15:50 > >Subject: Re: [Leica] [Lexica] Gun control > > > >Chris Rock has it nailed: > >"if bullets cost $5000 each, there would be no innocent bystanders" > > > >What we really need is for legislators to write own bills instead > >of having lobby's write them & pass them on to congressmen. After > >all, most are educated lawyers & should be prosecuted for plagiarism > >if introducing legislation created by others. That goes for all > >legislation. > > > > > > > >> > >> And the NRA goes down. Along with pharma & all other lobbies. > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >> information > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Leica Users Group. > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- http://philipforrestphoto.wordpress.com/ http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest