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Subject: [Leica] Tape backup? time for a pic?
From: ricc at embarqmail.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:50:08 -0500
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regarding tape backup

there are different tape formats--if you use one for years and it fails, it 
is easy to find your tapes unreadable

we had this happen at the office

we now use a network HD and local offsite via internet

ric

On Dec 15, 2012, at 10:14 AM, John Nebel <john.nebel at csdco.com> wrote:

> <http://photos.csd.net/library.html>
> 
> An old pic, now using lto4/5, but the idea is the same.  Lots of terabyte 
> tapes used in rotation, periodically moved to other locations.  Granted, a 
> somewhat heavyweight solution, but not needing a robot to do the work, the 
> same reliability can be achieved on a desktop or within a PC.
> 
> Never underestimate the bandwidth of an SUV full of tapes.
> 
> John
> 
> On 12/15/12 7:59 AM, Sonny Carter wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Richard Man <richard at 
>> richardmanphoto.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, at $180 for 2TB, that's 10 drives for $1800.
>>> 
>>> Unused drives sitting around is less reliable than unused tapes, sitting
>>> around.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> yeah but, if you are using the backup software, the hds get exercised.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> you can buy a lot of hard drive terrabytes for 1800 bucks
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Richard Man <
>>> richard at richardmanphoto.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well one of my 2TB drive in the back up system just gave up the ghost.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have ~2TB of images right now, and sure to grow
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know there were a few discussions on back up systems for photos, but
>>> I
>>>>> don't think tape back up got much attention. Anyone using it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am more or less down to choosing between tape back up or Amazon
>>>> Glacier.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The nice thing about Glacier is that it is entirely offsite. The major
>>>>> downside is that while it is much cheaper than other online storage, at
>>>>> $0.01 per GB per month, with 2TB of data, that's still $240 per year
>>> and
>>>>> will be more as I take more photos.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The nice thing about tape is that it is cheap enough ($60-$100 per 2
>>> TB)
>>>>> that I can make at least one duplicate copy. The downside is that the
>>>>> initial equipment purchase costs $1300-$1800 (and up) and I will have
>>> to
>>>>> find an offsite solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The default is to continue with hard drive back up. The major problem
>>> is
>>>>> reliability. For business data, I have a a RAID netstation and multiple
>>>>> back up on different systems, but for photos, doing the same is just
>>> not
>>>>> fiscally viable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Sonny
>>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>> 
>>>> USA
>>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>> 
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