Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Until a stray bullet strikes someone. Those scum are not the best of shots. Aram -------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Crawford" <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 1:05 AM To: <lug at leica-users.org> Subject: Re: [Leica] [Lexica] Gun control > Most guns are illegal in New York City, which is why you see few gun > stores. NYC has over 1000 murders a year, so it hasn't helped. > > Fort Wayne has a lot of gun shops, and we have 40 murders a year. Most of > them are gangbangers shooting other gangbangers. Scum-on-scum crime. > Doesn't affect me at all. > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-437-8990 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 > Become a fan on Facebook > > > > On 12/15/12 3:58 AM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > >>Here in NYC we have a Starbucks every two blocks. Gun stores I've not >>seen >>yet. >>Starbucks. 256 (that's also an f stop) in NYC >>Gun stores? Real hard to find one. Wait I'm checking..... >>>From what I can tell about a dozen. I read you have to go upstate to find >>them. >> >>256 / 12 = 21.3 >> so that's 21 single espressos per Beretta. >> >> >>On 12/15/12 3:42 AM, "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote: >> >>> Worldwide. Actually, the figures for *$ has gone up to about 20,000 and >>>the >>> # if gun stores are "only" 50,000. >>> >>> The point isn't to make a scientific comparison, the point is if you ask >>> any one on the street to make a guess, they would not have guessed >>> correctly. >>> >>> This country has skewed priority. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Mark Rabiner >>><mark at rabinergroup.com>wrote: >>> >>>> # of Starbucks in US? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/15/12 3:03 AM, "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> # of Starbucks worldwide : less than 18,000 >>>>> # of gun stores in US : more than 130,000 >>>>> >>>>> Any questions? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at >>>>> frozenlight.eu >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I hope that you are right and that I am wrong. But I believe >>>>>>otherwise, >>>>>> sadly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> YNWA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 15, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My gut feeling is you're wrong too many children on both American >>>> coasts >>>>>>> have just died I've just seen the photo of Obama's face in the news. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Was reading an economic thing yesterday. Not so good but private >>>>>>>arms >>>>>> sales >>>>>>> in the USA are way up. Why? Because they know the writing is on the >>>> wall. >>>>>>> This is their last chance to put finishing touches on their beloved >>>>>>> arsenals. >>>>>>> I think in a week and a month our blood will still be up. >>>>>>> And the NRA goes down. >>>>>>> And in a year. >>>>>>> The anti gun legislation papers will have to be wrestled from >>>>>>>Obama's >>>>>> cold >>>>>>> dead hands. Americans are going to be taking to the streets and I'm >>>>>> going to >>>>>>> be one of them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This stuff happening now happens nowhere else in the world. >>>>>>> Constant people being shot. >>>>>>> I think I will be great for tourism as right now we are viewed by >>>>>>>the >>>>>> entire >>>>>>> world as a bunch of gun nuts. And they're right. But think its time >>>>>>>has >>>>>>> come. We're going to have more people not afraid to come visit here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/15/12 1:47 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most European countries have those rights and more. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But anyway, it is a useless debate. The NRA has too much political >>>>>> power and >>>>>>>> the gun culture is too deeply ingrained in the US for anything to >>>>>> change. >>>>>>>> There will be outrage and sorrow for a few days, but it will die >>>>>>>>down >>>>>> and our >>>>>>>> collective attention will move on to something else. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> YNWA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Phil Forrest wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Most countries in the East also don't have the freedoms of speech, >>>>>>>>> religion, press like we do here. Right to due process of law. >>>> Innocence >>>>>>>>> until proven guilty by a jury of one's peers. Right to a speedy >>>> trial. >>>>>>>>> Right to be secure in one's effects. Equal protection under the >>>>>>>>>law >>>> for >>>>>>>>> all citizens. Right to vote. The list goes down the Bill of Rights >>>> and >>>>>>>>> through the rest of the US Constitution. No matter what nation >>>>>>>>>says >>>>>>>>> they have it right, they are wrong. Nobody is perfect, including >>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>> USA but here in the USA we have these rights and many are willing >>>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>>> give their lives to protect them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phil Forrest >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:11:42 +0800 >>>>>>>>> David Ching <davidhhching1 at yahoo.com.sg> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Most countries in the East ban possession of fire-arms by >>>> individuals >>>>>>>>>> and unlicensed bodies. Schools here do not have metal detectors. >>>>>>>>>> The students in general study in safe environments little >>>>>>>>>>affected >>>> by >>>>>>>>>> violence, drugs or extortion. Only bullying by peers rears its >>>>>>>>>>ugly >>>>>>>>>> head in certain schools. We watch the same violent movies. Have >>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>> same concerns about safety. This is the 21st century. Why does >>>>>>>>>> Americans need to have guns for self-protection? Stop shooting >>>>>>>>>>games >>>>>>>>>> & hunting with bullets. 'Shoot' with glass! Capture not kill not >>>>>>>>>> maim. It's time to act when little innocent kids get killed and >>>>>>>>>> scarred for life. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's indeed a very sad day in the history of the USA. And I am >>>>>>>>>> certain some other shooter will try to outdo this latest insane >>>>>>>>>>act. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mark, the firearms industry and gun toting lovers will always >>>>>>>>>>defend >>>>>>>>>> the right to arms. Until one of their kind is personally >>>>>>>>>>affected, I >>>>>>>>>> suppose. Sorry but I don't see the logic. Perhaps our >>>>>>>>>>differences in >>>>>>>>>> lifestyles account for this madness. It's not matter of the East >>>>>>>>>> versus the West. The Europeans do not bear arms. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As I see it, the only way out is a total ban on guns for the >>>> civilian >>>>>>>>>> population. Of course with the usual exceptions.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David Ching >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> http://philipforrestphoto.wordpress.com/ >>>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>>information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>>>> Photography >>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> Photography >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Mark William Rabiner >>Photography >>http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > >