Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]# of Starbucks worldwide : less than 18,000 # of gun stores in US : more than 130,000 Any questions? On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>wrote: > I hope that you are right and that I am wrong. But I believe otherwise, > sadly. > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ > > > YNWA > > > > > On Dec 15, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > > > My gut feeling is you're wrong too many children on both American coasts > > have just died I've just seen the photo of Obama's face in the news. > > > > Was reading an economic thing yesterday. Not so good but private arms > sales > > in the USA are way up. Why? Because they know the writing is on the wall. > > This is their last chance to put finishing touches on their beloved > > arsenals. > > I think in a week and a month our blood will still be up. > > And the NRA goes down. > > And in a year. > > The anti gun legislation papers will have to be wrestled from Obama's > cold > > dead hands. Americans are going to be taking to the streets and I'm > going to > > be one of them. > > > > This stuff happening now happens nowhere else in the world. > > Constant people being shot. > > I think I will be great for tourism as right now we are viewed by the > entire > > world as a bunch of gun nuts. And they're right. But think its time has > > come. We're going to have more people not afraid to come visit here. > > > > > > On 12/15/12 1:47 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote: > > > >> Most European countries have those rights and more. > >> > >> But anyway, it is a useless debate. The NRA has too much political > power and > >> the gun culture is too deeply ingrained in the US for anything to > change. > >> There will be outrage and sorrow for a few days, but it will die down > and our > >> collective attention will move on to something else. > >> > >> > >> Nathan Wajsman > >> Alicante, Spain > >> http://www.frozenlight.eu > >> http://www.greatpix.eu > >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ > >> > >> > >> YNWA > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Dec 15, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Phil Forrest wrote: > >> > >>> Most countries in the East also don't have the freedoms of speech, > >>> religion, press like we do here. Right to due process of law. Innocence > >>> until proven guilty by a jury of one's peers. Right to a speedy trial. > >>> Right to be secure in one's effects. Equal protection under the law for > >>> all citizens. Right to vote. The list goes down the Bill of Rights and > >>> through the rest of the US Constitution. No matter what nation says > >>> they have it right, they are wrong. Nobody is perfect, including the > >>> USA but here in the USA we have these rights and many are willing to > >>> give their lives to protect them. > >>> > >>> Phil Forrest > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:11:42 +0800 > >>> David Ching <davidhhching1 at yahoo.com.sg> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Most countries in the East ban possession of fire-arms by individuals > >>>> and unlicensed bodies. Schools here do not have metal detectors. > >>>> The students in general study in safe environments little affected by > >>>> violence, drugs or extortion. Only bullying by peers rears its ugly > >>>> head in certain schools. We watch the same violent movies. Have the > >>>> same concerns about safety. This is the 21st century. Why does > >>>> Americans need to have guns for self-protection? Stop shooting games > >>>> & hunting with bullets. 'Shoot' with glass! Capture not kill not > >>>> maim. It's time to act when little innocent kids get killed and > >>>> scarred for life. > >>>> > >>>> It's indeed a very sad day in the history of the USA. And I am > >>>> certain some other shooter will try to outdo this latest insane act. > >>>> > >>>> Mark, the firearms industry and gun toting lovers will always defend > >>>> the right to arms. Until one of their kind is personally affected, I > >>>> suppose. Sorry but I don't see the logic. Perhaps our differences in > >>>> lifestyles account for this madness. It's not matter of the East > >>>> versus the West. The Europeans do not bear arms. > >>>> > >>>> As I see it, the only way out is a total ban on guns for the civilian > >>>> population. Of course with the usual exceptions.. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> David Ching > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> http://philipforrestphoto.wordpress.com/ > >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark William Rabiner > > Photography > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>