Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/09

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From: ricc at embarqmail.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 20:15:25 -0500
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Virginia secession:
"Proposals Adopted by the Virginia Convention of 1861
The first resolution asserted states? rights per se; the second was for 
retention of slavery;"

South Carolina:
"The opening portion of the declaration outlines the historical background 
of South Carolina and offers a legal justification for its secession. It 
asserts that the right of states to secede is implicit in the Constitution 
and this right was explicitly reaffirmed by South Carolina in 1852. The 
declaration states that the agreement between South Carolina and the United 
States is subject to the law of compact, which creates obligations on both 
parties and which revokes the agreement if either party fails to uphold its 
obligations.
The next section asserts that the government of the United States and of 
states within that government had failed to uphold their obligations to 
South Carolina. The specific issue stated was the refusal of some states to 
enforce the Fugitive Slave Actand clauses in the US Constitution protecting 
slavery and the federal government's perceived role in attempting to abolish 
slavery.
The next section states that while these problems have existed for 
twenty-five years, the situation had recently become unacceptable due to the 
election of a President (this was Abraham Lincoln although he is not 
mentioned by name) who was planning to outlaw slavery."

Georgia's first sentences of secession

"The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the 
Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates 
and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten 
years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our 
non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of 
African slavery. They have endeavored to weaken our security, to disturb our 
domestic peace and tranquility, and persistently refused to comply with 
their express constitutional obligations to us in reference to that 
property, and by the use of their power in the Federal Government have 
striven to deprive us of an equal enjoyment of the common Territories of the 
Republic."


Mississippi furst 2 paragraphs:
"In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its 
connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but 
just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our 
course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the 
greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product 
which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce 
of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the 
tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race 
can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become 
necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and 
civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at 
the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but 
submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, 
whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin."




On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Ric Carter <ricc at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> i question this conclusion
> 
> ric
> 
> 
> On Dec 9, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Bill Larsen <von-ohlen at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> It really wasn't about slavery other than in a tangential manner.
> 



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